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Mar 19, 2010 | 05:41 PM
#556
Clearly the spark plug failure had nothing to do with RB aero package or the Renault engine while Ferrari has admited that Massa overheating was due to some aero piece/design which they are trying to rectify. In short, Ferrari has as much, if not more, of a problem as RB...Melbourne will tell the tale.
Later, Ken
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Mar 20, 2010 | 12:13 AM
#557
Clearly the spark plug failure had nothing to do with RB aero package or the Renault engine while Ferrari has admited that Massa overheating was due to some aero piece/design which they are trying to rectify. In short, Ferrari has as much, if not more, of a problem as RB...Melbourne will tell the tale.
Later, Ken
Later, Ken
One of Ferrari's major problems is how heavy they are at the start of the race. The are using a good bit more fuel then any of the other cars.
If the Red Bull's have Merc motors last year i think we might have witnessed a different race for the drivers championship. The major factor that hampered SV's season were his motor failures.
Mar 20, 2010 | 12:34 PM
#558
they need the fuel. Its well known that prancing stallions use more energy than red bulls during races.
(if I could draw you would get a colorful animation of gay italian horses playing with giant red bulls around a troff being filled with cash by Bernie who is bathed in light comming down from the heavens..... and it turns out to be a overhead lamp used during night-races)
(if I could draw you would get a colorful animation of gay italian horses playing with giant red bulls around a troff being filled with cash by Bernie who is bathed in light comming down from the heavens..... and it turns out to be a overhead lamp used during night-races)
Mar 21, 2010 | 10:06 AM
#559
Renault has gotten the green light to make a few improvements to there engines, but only in the fields of cost and reliability. There are not being able to improve there engines fuel economy at all.
http://www.planetf1.com/news/18227/6...engine-changes
http://www.planetf1.com/news/18227/6...engine-changes
Mar 21, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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Renault has gotten the green light to make a few improvements to there engines, but only in the fields of cost and reliability. There are not being able to improve there engines fuel economy at all.
http://www.planetf1.com/news/18227/6...engine-changes
http://www.planetf1.com/news/18227/6...engine-changes
Later, Ken
Mar 22, 2010 | 05:30 AM
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I disagree. Ferrari are easily the TEAM to beat, and Red Bull has been plagued by reliability issues since last year and obviously have not resolved them. Combine that with everyone driving all conservative to learn the proper strategy, Alonso blazing fast laps at the end of the race, and two top level drivers and it's easy to see why Ferrari are the favorites. The Renault simply isn't consistent enough, and is bound to be well off the pace at a few races this year while also likely running thin on engines as well.
There is no driver lineup that even comes close to the Ferrari pair. Aside from my clear Hamilton bias I have to say that Alonso + Ferrari is looking tough to beat this year. Not to mention that last year Ferrari and McLaren both proved that they are capable of staggering improvement speeds. So by the end of this season it could very well be Ferrari vs McLaren again. Or, at least Ferrari vs Hamilton as Button hasn't proven anything.
If Red Bull had a Mercedes engine I might change that opinion, but even still Vettel seems to have more problems with his car than Webber and Red Bull more problems than other Renault teams. Possible that Newey's on the edge designs are bad for consistency.
There is no driver lineup that even comes close to the Ferrari pair. Aside from my clear Hamilton bias I have to say that Alonso + Ferrari is looking tough to beat this year. Not to mention that last year Ferrari and McLaren both proved that they are capable of staggering improvement speeds. So by the end of this season it could very well be Ferrari vs McLaren again. Or, at least Ferrari vs Hamilton as Button hasn't proven anything.
If Red Bull had a Mercedes engine I might change that opinion, but even still Vettel seems to have more problems with his car than Webber and Red Bull more problems than other Renault teams. Possible that Newey's on the edge designs are bad for consistency.
So RB has the fastest car at this point in time and UR point about the reliability of the Renault engine is based upon last year's results. As pointed out earlier, the misshap with Vettel's car in Bahrain was not the Renualt engine per se but rather a component made by other. Now RB has used this incident to request and has received approval to modify their engine, as Bill has just pointed out, to make changes to same to increase "reliability". In short, there is no current evidence to suggest the Renault engine will perform or, should I say, fail as it did last year. And now that they have approval to go and make additional changes, should only increase its reliability (and probably other things as well) further. Red Bull Racing is, therefore, the team to beat this year IFF everything remains equal from here on out...which it probably will not; Mercedes and McLaren along with Ferrari are burning the midnight oil to obtain more pace and better fuel economy. Time will tell if they are successful.
Later, Ken
Mar 23, 2010 | 05:10 AM
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The problem might be that the red bull engineers made a mistake with the fuel tanks size. they realized that the fuel wasnt enough to power vettel till the end of the race, hens the loss of power because they had to de-tune the engine to spend less fuel and finish the race. thats why vettels car ran out of fuel after the race was over and vettel didnt get it back to the pits. vettels car is so fast cuz its lighter than the rest
Mar 23, 2010 | 06:07 AM
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The problem might be that the red bull engineers made a mistake with the fuel tanks size. they realized that the fuel wasnt enough to power vettel till the end of the race, hens the loss of power because they had to de-tune the engine to spend less fuel and finish the race. thats why vettels car ran out of fuel after the race was over and vettel didnt get it back to the pits. vettels car is so fast cuz its lighter than the rest
Later, Ken
Mar 23, 2010 | 06:19 AM
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A man of few words...if U mean how does driver fit in here, the answer is all the top drivers are a factor but it is the machine that they are driving that usually determines the winner. I know this is debatable but when a team wins IMHO the strategy and machine are more important than the driver because I think the latter are all quite close. It is difficult to separate man from machine here when it comes to the lap times. The only real way to determine this would be to have all the drivers drive the same car, on the same course and on the same day which never happens in F1. That said, the experienced drivers (Alonso, Massa, Hamilton, Button, etc.) that know the course and racing strategies will outperform the new younger drivers irrespective of the car.
Probably opened a can of worms here but this happens when one responds to a criptic message.
Later, Ken
Probably opened a can of worms here but this happens when one responds to a criptic message.
Later, Ken
Mar 23, 2010 | 06:24 AM
#567
I don't think that Vettel ran out of fuel... that car sounded horrible. I don't think they have the capability of shutting down cylinders from the pit wall to save fuel. Maybe you guys discussed this already, if so I missed it sorry.
Mar 23, 2010 | 05:10 PM
#568
I don't believe that Red Bull made a error when it came to fuel amount. They have done enough testing to make sure something like that didn't happen. Plus the car would not have sounded like it did.
Mar 24, 2010 | 03:53 AM
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Mar 24, 2010 | 06:12 AM
#570
Yeah, I've hated the guy ever since his team wore "Schumacher Who?" t-shirts under their fire suits at the race he clinched his 1st driver championship.