Originally Posted by jvb6806

Originally Posted by Ludikraut

Looks like the 107% rule is back for 2011, along with a ridiculous movable rear wing rule. Sometimes I really wonder WTF FIA is thinking ... if at all. 107% rule is going to kill the new teams. With the lack of in-season testing, the races play a significant role in collecting data on an F1 car. If a new team can't qualify for the race, they've effectively lost 25-50% of their testing time.
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Originally Posted by GG06MR

True, but 7% on a 1:30 lap is over 6 seconds, and 7% on a 1:45 lap is over 7 seconds, so there is a BIG window there. In my opinion, if they bring a car that is 6+ seconds per lap slower than the fastest car there, then they don't deserve to have the car on track during the race. Besides, how much testing can they really be doing during the race if they're lapping that far off the pace and spending nearly the whole race trying to get out of the way of the top ten or so cars anyway?!?! Virgin and HRT are good examples of that, since neither of them have really shown any significant improvement, i.e. they're still finishing 2-5 laps down after having 8 races worth of testing.....if they even finish the race.

Originally Posted by KevinD

i understand the cost cutting measures... but the no testing thing really blows. i think everyone would be much closer if they got a decent amount of on track testing in the off season. without the on track testing, its just who can model and simulate the car the best.


so which F1 teams are looking for a mechanical engineer with 6 years matlab/simulink experiencing doing simulation and controls for various military applications?

Originally Posted by KPerez

When the FIA came out with an adjustable rear wing coupled with a banning of the the F-duct for 2011, I thought (see earlier post) that the result would be the same, namely decrease rear downforce thereby decreasing drag and increasing straight line speed. However, according the James Allen, the rear wing when electronically activated "...will...give the car following another more downforce, to encourage an overtake."That is, instead of decreasing the wing profile they will increase it. So activation of the wing on the straight will only slow down the following car preventing overtaking. So, if I am reading this correctly, the only place it would be advantageous was in those turns where no braking is required (since braking deactivates wing) but a tap on the brakes after the turn and pass would be needed to get wing back to lower drag postion. I may be confused here OR J Allen has it all wrong. Can somebody clarify this for me?

Later, Ken

Originally Posted by grillpt

I heard USF1 is hiring.



The way I understand it the moveable rear wing will only be allowed to be used be the overtaking car. Also, the FIA and/or the Pitwall will let a driver know by the control panel on the steering wheel when the system can be activated... So what I take from that is if your the car leading they will not allow you to activate the system, I could be wrong, but thats the way it reads to me...

Originally Posted by KPerez

^ but the question is does the activation decrease or increase downforce to following driver?...if latter, then the passing will occur just before or into turns where it would be an advantage; if the former, then activation will occur on the straights providing least drag yeilding higher straight line speed.

Later, Ken

Originally Posted by the FIA

The grid

From 2011, any driver whose best qualifying lap exceeds 107% of the fastest Q1 qualifying time will not be allowed to take part in the race. Under exceptional circumstances, however, which may include setting a suitable lap time in a free practice session, the stewards may permit the car to start the race. Should there be more than one driver accepted in this manner, the grid order will be determined by the stewards.

Driver adjustable bodywork

From 2011, adjustable bodywork may be activated by the driver at any time prior to the start of the race and, for the sole purpose of improving overtaking opportunities during the race, after the driver has completed two laps. The driver may only activate the adjustable bodywork in the race when he has been notified via the control electronics that it is enabled. It will only be enabled if the driver is less than one second behind another at any of the pre-determined positions around each circuit. The system will be disabled the first time the driver uses the brakes after the system has been activated. The FIA may, after consulting all the competitors, adjust the time proximity in order to ensure the purpose of the adjustable bodywork is met..

Originally Posted by GG06MR

Sounds like a typo to me. I don't think they'd disallow the F-duct in favor of an adjustable rear wing and then determine that the standard position of the wing would be the reduced downforce setting.

Originally Posted by KPerez

Ok, so we know how it works but these restrictions look rediculous to me...use at specified sections of track...only following cars can use it IFF they are within one second of the lead car...use only after first two laps...way, way to complicated...just have it available for the drivers to use whenever, wherever. This is the way it is now with the F-duct for those that have it. Why is the FIA getting in here and making the application of this feature so ****? I guess this is the way all organizations evolve...screw up that for which it was designed...it is called the ultimate bureaucracy.

Later, Ken

Originally Posted by newevil

hulkenberg & petrov q3 ?????? & wth schumi needs to go back into retirement its either shumi now sucks or merc isnt putting as much money into developement as they should.