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Oct 12, 2010, 07:21 AM
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[QUOTE=DaWorstPlaya;8741284]"... Now that Sauber is going Mexican, ..."
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Apparently the Mexican transformation will not be complete at least in the near term...Panasonic is reported (http://www.crash.net/f1/news/164234/...uber_deal.html) to be a new sponser for Sauber presumably as a result of Kobay's drive at Suzuka...Recall Toyota was backed heavily by Panasonic.
Later, Ken
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Apparently the Mexican transformation will not be complete at least in the near term...Panasonic is reported (http://www.crash.net/f1/news/164234/...uber_deal.html) to be a new sponser for Sauber presumably as a result of Kobay's drive at Suzuka...Recall Toyota was backed heavily by Panasonic.
Later, Ken
Oct 12, 2010, 07:52 AM
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What drama was there at Renault? And how has he caused any current drama at Ferrari? He's getting along there great, and any drama I've seen has been a result of the team, not his attitude. I don't see how anything he has done is more diva-like than what I've seen this year from Hamilton or vettel. Button and Hamilton get along because button is genuine and humble. He's content to play second fiddle to Hamilton, where Alonso was not, and they clashed.
1st time there: Trulli openly accused Flavio of giving Alonso all of the better components. Similar deal as to what Webber did about Vettel getting the new front wing earlier this season, but Alonso was getting preferential treatment the entire season at every event.
2nd time there: Crash-gate
Drama at Ferrari......
Surprisingly not very much. Seems like he's on his best behavior, and I think a lot of it has to do with Massa not really being any competition for him.
The drama seams to follow him more than anything, i.e. he's not the guy whining, pissing, and moaning, but he does seem to find a way to get his competitors to be against him.....including his own teammates.
Oct 12, 2010, 08:51 AM
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Drama at Renault......
1st time there: Trulli openly accused Flavio of giving Alonso all of the better components. Similar deal as to what Webber did about Vettel getting the new front wing earlier this season, but Alonso was getting preferential treatment the entire season at every event.
2nd time there: Crash-gate
Drama at Ferrari......
Surprisingly not very much. Seems like he's on his best behavior, and I think a lot of it has to do with Massa not really being any competition for him.
The drama seams to follow him more than anything, i.e. he's not the guy whining, pissing, and moaning, but he does seem to find a way to get his competitors to be against him.....including his own teammates.
1st time there: Trulli openly accused Flavio of giving Alonso all of the better components. Similar deal as to what Webber did about Vettel getting the new front wing earlier this season, but Alonso was getting preferential treatment the entire season at every event.
2nd time there: Crash-gate
Drama at Ferrari......
Surprisingly not very much. Seems like he's on his best behavior, and I think a lot of it has to do with Massa not really being any competition for him.
The drama seams to follow him more than anything, i.e. he's not the guy whining, pissing, and moaning, but he does seem to find a way to get his competitors to be against him.....including his own teammates.
You can in no way blame Alonso for crashgate. Flavio has no scruples.
I agree that drama follows him. But you can't fault him for bad karma. The way he drives and his consistent performance make him my favorite driver. If it were a personality contest Jensen would win hands down.
Oct 12, 2010, 09:21 AM
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Yes, he is very consistent. To me, he's a better Jenson Button who can push just that little bit further with a great car. However, when he has an inferior car, he can also sometimes push too hard, and then give us some entertaining oh **** offs......at least in my opinion.
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Oct 12, 2010, 09:49 AM
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What drama was there at Renault? And how has he caused any current drama at Ferrari? He's getting along there great, and any drama I've seen has been a result of the team, not his attitude. I don't see how anything he has done is more diva-like than what I've seen this year from Hamilton or vettel. Button and Hamilton get along because button is genuine and humble. He's content to play second fiddle to Hamilton, where Alonso was not, and they clashed.
Oct 13, 2010, 03:58 AM
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Korea: Advantage F duct
Since the Korean circuit has the longest straight of any of the tracks, 1.2km, the team that can stall the rear wing the best via the F duct will be dominant. This puts McLaren as the top dog since they designed the car with the F duct prior to the season opener...the rest have had to play catch up and make do with what they got.
Later, Ken
Later, Ken
Oct 13, 2010, 06:00 AM
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What do you guys think of the Korean Track? I was playing it on F1 2010... and yes... it has some CRAZY long straights... but the rest of the track seemed to be dominated by really tight and slow corners! 
Oct 13, 2010, 10:23 AM
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How many times did we see Kobay over take the other drivers in one of the tightest and slowest corners in Suzuka. I can't wait to see this track.
Apparently the Mexican transformation will not be complete at least in the near term...Panasonic is reported (http://www.crash.net/f1/news/164234/...uber_deal.html) to be a new sponser for Sauber presumably as a result of Kobay's drive at Suzuka...Recall Toyota was backed heavily by Panasonic.
Later, Ken
Later, Ken
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Oct 13, 2010, 11:36 AM
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I hope Ferrari doesn't win after the whole team orders thing that the stewarts desided NOT to penalize Ferrari on, becuase "Oh, well we were going to change that rule anyway." The other two constructures in the top of the standings have been fighting it out all season... only Ferrari is weak enough that they have to rig their teams competitiveness to even give them a shot this year at the drivers/constructors championship.
Oct 13, 2010, 07:37 PM
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I hope Ferrari doesn't win after the whole team orders thing that the stewarts desided NOT to penalize Ferrari on, becuase "Oh, well we were going to change that rule anyway." The other two constructures in the top of the standings have been fighting it out all season... only Ferrari is weak enough that they have to rig their teams competitiveness to even give them a shot this year at the drivers/constructors championship.
