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Nov 7, 2010, 01:54 AM
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Jenson Button's road car almost got hijacked as he was leaving the track after qualifying!
http://www.planet-f1.com/news/3213/6...apes-Hijacking
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Nov 7, 2010, 03:52 AM
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Later, Ken
Nov 7, 2010, 07:58 AM
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Race is about to start now... wonder if the Redbull's, Alonso, Hamilton are just gonna blaze by Hulkenberg on the start since the track is dry.
The sound of the crowd is crazy... like a soccer game.
The sound of the crowd is crazy... like a soccer game.
Nov 7, 2010, 12:13 PM
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Hulkenberg tried, but just couldn't keep his position.
Alonso and Hamilton defiantly had to work to get around Hulkenberg. I think Alonso may have this wrapped up. But it's not over until it's over. With Hamilton 24 points down, he STILL HAS A CHANCE!!!!! Hahaha, even though I'm a Hamilton fan, the other top four guys would have to DNF for him to get the championship.
I'm all for Vettel next weekend. Though, being so young, a championship may go to his head.
Alonso and Hamilton defiantly had to work to get around Hulkenberg. I think Alonso may have this wrapped up. But it's not over until it's over. With Hamilton 24 points down, he STILL HAS A CHANCE!!!!! Hahaha, even though I'm a Hamilton fan, the other top four guys would have to DNF for him to get the championship.
I'm all for Vettel next weekend. Though, being so young, a championship may go to his head.
Right? Kudos to Hulkenberg! 
A rain setup probably helped him. Either way he really did try his best.
Nov 8, 2010, 06:18 AM
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If Alonso ends up winning by less than 8 points, there's going to be a major uproar. Mad props go to Hulkenberg for pwning the field in qualifying and Red Bull for sticking to their mantra of no team orders.
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Nov 8, 2010, 07:27 AM
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whats interesting is, if vettel had moved over and given webber the win, the points would be like this:
alonso = 246
webber = 245 down 1 point
vettel = 224 down 22 points
sure it gives webber better odds, but it effectively eliminates vettel completely.
now say in the last race webber has a mechanical failure, that means the only chance redbull would have is vettel winning, and alonso finishing 9th or worse. AND vettel would have to finish in front of hamilton. (very unlikely).
with the points as they actually are:
alonso = 246
webber = 238
vettel = 231
i feel they may be further behind, but they effectively give themselves more of a chance. (they didn't put all their eggs in one basket).
now lets say webber and vettels cars run fine. IF vettel is running first, webber second, and alonso 3rd, all that needs to happen is vettel have a engine hiccup, and let webber by and he still wins the championship. (most likely scenario i think will actually play out). cause if vettel finishs in front of the two immediately behind him, vettel and webber will both miss out (if there is ever going to be team orders, thats going to be it).
of course if vettel has a failure and it goes webber 1, alonso 2, then it hurts because he will loose by a point. likewise if webber has a failure, it goes vettel 1, alonso 2, they loose even worse.
if alonso has a failure, and vettel wins, he will tie webber, and win the championship on number of wins through the season.
alonso = 246
webber = 245 down 1 point
vettel = 224 down 22 points
sure it gives webber better odds, but it effectively eliminates vettel completely.
now say in the last race webber has a mechanical failure, that means the only chance redbull would have is vettel winning, and alonso finishing 9th or worse. AND vettel would have to finish in front of hamilton. (very unlikely).
with the points as they actually are:
alonso = 246
webber = 238
vettel = 231
i feel they may be further behind, but they effectively give themselves more of a chance. (they didn't put all their eggs in one basket).
now lets say webber and vettels cars run fine. IF vettel is running first, webber second, and alonso 3rd, all that needs to happen is vettel have a engine hiccup, and let webber by and he still wins the championship. (most likely scenario i think will actually play out). cause if vettel finishs in front of the two immediately behind him, vettel and webber will both miss out (if there is ever going to be team orders, thats going to be it).
of course if vettel has a failure and it goes webber 1, alonso 2, then it hurts because he will loose by a point. likewise if webber has a failure, it goes vettel 1, alonso 2, they loose even worse.
if alonso has a failure, and vettel wins, he will tie webber, and win the championship on number of wins through the season.
Nov 8, 2010, 08:00 AM
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^ with regard to the last point, Alonso is running redone engines in each practice session and race from his original 8 allotment...Ferrari mechanics R definitely earning their keep!...they have saved one of these with the least mileage and refurbished it like no other, so it is very unlikely he will not have a failure...mechanics have been hoarding this one engine just in case the championship goes down to the last race.
Now if, on the last lap, we have the order found in Brazil, Vettel MUST let Weber through...there R no other options...because the weather will not be an issue, the championship will come down to three things: Qualy, the start being clean and each driver in the top four doing the right thing.
What a season...with next year having some significant changes to the cars will likely make it tighter at the top, if thats possible, with the lower, read slower, teams hopefully starting to significantly bridge the gap between themselves and the top ten.
Later, Ken
Now if, on the last lap, we have the order found in Brazil, Vettel MUST let Weber through...there R no other options...because the weather will not be an issue, the championship will come down to three things: Qualy, the start being clean and each driver in the top four doing the right thing.
What a season...with next year having some significant changes to the cars will likely make it tighter at the top, if thats possible, with the lower, read slower, teams hopefully starting to significantly bridge the gap between themselves and the top ten.
Later, Ken
Nov 8, 2010, 08:43 AM
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^ I am willing to bet that vettel will allow webber by if the running / last lap order is identical to brasil. Vettel has nothing to gain by winning & would be denying webber the championship.......
How would it go down, especially if alonso is right on the tail of webber?.....does vettel just pull over to let him by or will it look like the finish line of a local bracket car race where webber just noses past for the win on the final lap?
regardless, it should be a very exciting finish to a really good season....
How would it go down, especially if alonso is right on the tail of webber?.....does vettel just pull over to let him by or will it look like the finish line of a local bracket car race where webber just noses past for the win on the final lap?
regardless, it should be a very exciting finish to a really good season....
Nov 8, 2010, 09:29 AM
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I couldn't agree more, its a very exciting season. If push came to shove and the 2 Redbulls are in front of the Ferrari in the final laps then Vettel may concede the victory to Mark Weber. But this is assuming that the Redbull are even in front at Abu Dhabi. If I remember correctly the track has a lot of straight lines and tight corners, who knows the McLarens and Ferraris could be in front.