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Old Dec 9, 2009, 02:11 PM
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2009 F1 Summary

01 2009 FORMULA 1 ING AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX (Melbourne) 27 - 29 Mar
RESULTS:P1. BUTTON, P2. BARRICHELLO, P3. TRULLI *(JARNO TRULLI was third but recieved 25sec penalty for SC pass, which put him in 12th, Then Hamilton was stripped of 3rd and Trulli re-appointed 3rd)*

02 2009 FORMULA 1 PETRONAS MALAYSIAN GRAND PRIX (Kuala Lumpur) 03 - 05 Apr
RESULTS:P1. BUTTON, P2. HEIDFELD, P3. GLOCK

03 2009 FORMULA 1 CHINESE GRAND PRIX (Shanghai) 17 - 19 Apr
RESULTS:P1. VETTEL, P2. WEBBER, P3. BUTTON

04 2009 FORMULA 1 GULF AIR BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX (Sakhir) 24 - 26 Apr
RESULTS: P1. BUTTON, P2. VETTEL, P3. TRULLI

05 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE ESPANA TELEFONICA 2009 (Catalunya) 08 - 10 May
RESULTS: P1. BUTTON, P2. BARRICHELLO, P3. WEBBER

06 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2009 (Monte Carlo) 21 - 24 May
RESULTS: P1. BUTTON, P2. BARRICHELLO, P3. Räikkönen

07 2009 FORMULA 1 TURKISH GRAND PRIX (Istanbul) 05 - 07 Jun
RESULTS: P1. BUTTON, P2. WEBBER, P3. VETTEL

08 2009 FORMULA 1 SANTANDER BRITISH GRAND PRIX (Silverstone) 19 - 21 Jun
RESULTS: P1. VETTEL, P2. WEBBER, P3. BARRICHELLO

09 FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2009 (Nürburgring) 10 - 12 Jul
RESULTS: P1. WEBBER, P2. VETTEL, P3. MASSA

10 FORMULA 1 ING MAGYAR NAGYDIJ 2009 (Budapest) 24 - 26 Jul
RESULTS: P1. HAMILTON, P2. Räikkönen, P3. WEBBER

11 2009 FORMULA 1 TELEFONICA GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE (Valencia) 21 - 23 Aug
RESULTS: P1. BARRICHELLO, P2. HAMILTON, P3. Räikkönen

12 2009 FORMULA 1 ING BELGIAN GRAND PRIX (Spa-Francorchamps) 28 - 30 Aug
RESULTS: P1. Räikkönen, P2. FISICHELLA, P3. VETTEL

13 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO SANTANDER D'ITALIA 2009 (Monza) 11 - 13 Sep
RESULTS: P1. BARRICHELLO, P2. BUTTON, P3. Räikkönen

14 2009 FORMULA 1 SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX (Singapore) 25 - 27 Sep

15 2009 FORMULA 1 FUJI TELEVISION JAPANESE GRAND PRIX (Suzuka) 02 - 04 Oct

16 FORMULA 1 GRANDE PREMIO DO BRASIL 2009 (Sao Paulo) 16 - 18 Oct

17 2009 FORMULA 1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX (Yas Marina Circuit) 30 Oct - 01 Nov



2008 SUMMARY

Calender
01 2008 FORMULA 1 ING AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX (Melbourne) 14 - 16 Mar
Results: P1. Hamilton, P2. Heidfeld, P3. Rosberg

02 2008 FORMULA 1 PETRONAS MALAYSIAN GRAND PRIX (Kuala Lumpur) 21 - 23 Mar
Results: P1. Raikkonen, P2. Kubica, P3. Kovalainen

03 2008 FORMULA 1 GULF AIR BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX (Bahrain) 04 - 06 Apr
Results: P1. Massa, P2. Raikkonen, P3. Kubica

04 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE ESPANA TELEFONICA 2008 (Catalunya) 25 - 27 Apr
Results: P1. Räikkönen, P2. Massa, P3. Hamilton

05 2008 FORMULA 1 PETROL OFISI TURKISH GRAND PRIX (Istanbul) 09 - 11 May
Results: P1. Massa, P2. Hamilton, P3. Räikkönen

06 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO 2008 (Monte Carlo) 22 - 25 May
Results: P1. Hamilton, P2. Kubica, P3. Massa

07 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DU CANADA 2008 (Montreal) 06 - 08 Jun
Results: P1. Kubica, P2. Heidfeld, P3. Coulthard

08 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE FRANCE 2008 (Magny-Cours) 20 - 22 Jun
Results: P1. Massa, P2. Räikkönen, P3. Trulli

09 2008 FORMULA 1 SANTANDER BRITISH GRAND PRIX (Silverstone) 04 - 06 Jul
Results: P1. Hamilton, P2. Heidfeld, P3. Barrichello

10 FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS SANTANDER VON DEUTSCHLAND 2008 (Hockenheim) 18 - 20 Jul
Results: P1. Hamilton, P2. Piquet, P3. Massa

11 FORMULA 1 ING MAGYAR NAGYDIJ 2008 (Budapest) 01 - 03 Aug
Results: P1. Kovalainen, P2. Glock, P3. Räikkönen

12 2008 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE (Valencia) 22 - 24 Aug
Results: P1. Massa, P2. Hamilton, P3. Kubica

13 2008 FORMULA 1 ING BELGIAN GRAND PRIX (Spa-Francorchamps) 05 - 07 Sep
Results: P1. Massa, P2. Heidfeld, P3. Hamilton

14 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO SANTANDER D'ITALIA 2008 (Monza) 12 - 14 Sep
Results: P1. Vettel, P2. Kovalainen, P3. Kubica

15 2008 FORMULA 1 SINGTEL SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX (Singapore) 26 - 28 Sep *Night
Results: P1. Alonso, P2. Rosberg, P3. Hamilton

16 2008 FORMULA 1 FUJI TELEVISION JAPANESE GRAND PRIX (Fuji Speedway) 10 - 12 Oct
Results: P1. Alonso, P2. Kubica, P3. Räikkönen

17 2008 FORMULA 1 SINOPEC CHINESE GRAND PRIX (Shanghai) 17 - 19 Oct
Results: P1. Hamilton, P2. Massa, P3. Räikkönen

18 FORMULA 1 GRANDE PREMIO DO BRASIL 2008 (Sao Paulo) 31 Oct - 02 Nov
Results: P1. Massa, P2. Alonso, P3. Räikkönen

CONSTRUCTORS POINTS RESULTS:
1 Ferrari 172
2 McLaren-Mercedes 151
3 BMW Sauber 135

4 Renault 80
5 Toyota 56
6 STR-Ferrari 39

7 Red Bull-Renault 29
8 Williams-Toyota 26
9 Honda 14


10 Force India-Ferrari 0
11 Super Aguri-Honda 0


Drivers Standings:

World Champion 2008
- Lewis Hamilton British McLaren-Mercedes 98-

2 Felipe Massa Brazilian Ferrari 97
3 Kimi Räikkönen Finnish Ferrari 75
4 Robert Kubica Polish BMW Sauber 75
5 Fernando Alonso Spanish Renault 61
6 Nick Heidfeld German BMW Sauber 60
7 Heikki Kovalainen Finnish McLaren-Mercedes 53
8 Sebastian Vettel German STR-Ferrari 35
9 Jarno Trulli Italian Toyota 31
10 Timo Glock German Toyota 25

11 Mark Webber Australian Red Bull-Renault 21
12 Nelsinho Piquet Brazilian Renault 19
13 Nico Rosberg German Williams-Toyota 17
14 Rubens Barrichello Brazilian Honda 11
15 Kazuki Nakajima Japanese Williams-Toyota 9
16 David Coulthard British Red Bull-Renault 8
17 Sebastien Bourdais French STR-Ferrari 4
18 Jenson Button British Honda 3
19 Giancarlo Fisichella Italian Force India-Ferrari 0
20 Adrian Sutil German Force India-Ferrari 0
21 Takuma Sato Japanese Super Aguri-Honda 0
22 Anthony Davidson British Super Aguri-Honda 0

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Old Dec 9, 2009, 02:14 PM
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How do you feel about Raikkonen going to WRC??
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Where else do we start?
1)No fuel stops, does it equal better racing or not?

2)All the seats still have not been filled, so who's left, and where are they going?

3)There is still a big rumor that Schumacher may come out of retirement!

4)What about all these new teams? Will they even make the grid?
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I am friggin pumped about USF1. I think that they are going to bring it. They will be on the grid for sure.
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This season will determine, Alonso's, Massa's, Hamilton's, and Button's career, in terms of them being a number one or number two driver.

No refueling will be great because the cars will be fastest at the end of the race.

If USF1 makes it to the grid, I see a top 5 being borderline impossible. Ferrari/Mclaren will be upfront from the start, one of the new teams hopefully shakes things up, I hope the bought up teams that should no longer be around make some big changes.

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All good stuff! I'm hoping there are not gonna be any fuel restrictions on qualifying, this way we can see some real speed/car control/talent during quali!
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Originally Posted by scorke
This season will determine, Alonso's, Massa's, Hamilton's, and Button's career, in terms of them being a number one or number two driver.

No refueling will be great because the cars will be fastest at the end of the race.

If USF1 makes it to the grid, I see a top 5 being borderline impossible. Ferrari/Mclaren will be upfront from the start, one of the new teams hopefully shakes things up, I hope the bought up teams that should no longer be around make some big changes.

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All but the Button haven proven they are without a doubt capable #1's.

In fact, they are 3 of the top 4 drivers on the grid, bar none. (Vettel being the other)

I don't get your point, if they aren't #1's then there aren't any on the grid.
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He meant #1 within thier respective teams.
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There is a such thing as 2 #1's on a team, we've seen it quite a bit here recently:

Hamilton/Alonso
Kimi/Massa
Schumacher/Massa (well maybe Massa wasn't then)


At any rate, two #1's is very possible and if you lose to a #1 does not make you a #2 if both guys have #1 talent.

Button is not a #1 driver.
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Originally Posted by bluestreak

Button is not a #1 driver.
I agree! The Hamilton/Button combo is going to go Lewis' way easily!
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Originally Posted by bluestreak
All but the Button haven proven they are without a doubt capable #1's.

In fact, they are 3 of the top 4 drivers on the grid, bar none. (Vettel being the other)

I don't get your point, if they aren't #1's then there aren't any on the grid.
Rueben's towards the end of the season was faster than Jenson in a couple races, in terms of qualifying and finish.

In a team where Button and Hamilton are teammates, I'm not so sure he is number one.

Before 2010, Massa and Button were the clear number ones, with their new teammates coming in I don't think the distinction is as clear.

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Originally Posted by NY Evolutionary
How do you feel about Raikkonen going to WRC??
I like it... but I'm honestly not a huge fan of his anymore... I don't know what goes on outside of what I see on tv but, life cant be that bad for him... and he acted like he had a horrible and boring job... he wasn't interested in it anymore, only for the money... maybe he will be re-uplifted by moving to WRC.
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I think Kimi will do well in Rallying once he adjust his driving style. He'll have some of the best equipment.

As for the F1 season, just have to see how things go. I'm glad quali will be back to low fuel, flatout, who's fastest. Thats the way it really should be. No refueling will change things, just have to see how much of a difference it will actually make. Either way, I'm looking forward to the season but we have a few months to go.
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Originally Posted by NY Evolutionary
How do you feel about Raikkonen going to WRC??
he will be upper mid driver i guess.
Rally different mind set and skill.
Not better or worst just different.
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