Euro Rally Cross comes to USA in 2010
Feb 26, 2010, 09:24 PM
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The Rally Cross that is coming to NJMP will have an X-Games factor to it as well (read "JUMP") - no clue what suspension setup would be needed for that!!! I would be all over the Rally Cross stuff were it not for the JUMP part...pretty sure peeps would need professional sponsorship/loads of cash & spares to be competitive 
RallyCross will have jumps for sure...but I can't see the gap jumps happening.
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Feb 28, 2010, 08:10 PM
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Despite the fact a round of the Rally America series was happening this weekend, I already got a reply back from the top levels of the organization:
"Rallycross jump will not be a car breaker... That would be dumb."
So, there you go.
Dave
"Rallycross jump will not be a car breaker... That would be dumb."
So, there you go.
Dave
Mar 1, 2010, 04:37 AM
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Rally cross is crazy money. More then Rally . Also it is AWESOME!
But you guys have to be thinking about 100 times before you jump in. Will cost a heavy money , and im not kidding here...
In my little country has a long and big history of rally cross /and almost any motor sport
for us is like a baseball.../. I did it for couple events with a Lada
Fact one of my good friend build one of the best rally cross Evo in Hungary .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3_vyOomPE4&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_o9N9PgVts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWqh3-H7Q1E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI4Ia82oXvo
But you guys have to be thinking about 100 times before you jump in. Will cost a heavy money , and im not kidding here...
In my little country has a long and big history of rally cross /and almost any motor sport
for us is like a baseball.../. I did it for couple events with a Lada Fact one of my good friend build one of the best rally cross Evo in Hungary .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3_vyOomPE4&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_o9N9PgVts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWqh3-H7Q1E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI4Ia82oXvo
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Mar 1, 2010, 05:49 AM
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Here is the Videos i put it up here location:
2010. 06.- 04-06 2010 Nyirad EU Championship
location:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie...0&iwloc=A&sa=X
http://www.maplandia.com/hungary/veszprem/nyirad/
20 minutes from my City / Veszprem/
a lot more info here in english
http://www.rallycross.hu/index.php?language_code=en
here is the Official schedule of the Hungarian rally and motorsport. These are bigger events but sure you can find many many more local and medium events. They are usually just as good. All out events
You just need to google out the Place they holding it. The places are usually very small and a lots of people involved. So not hard to find the event for sure.
Also most of the time looks like a Macy's Parade so everybody is out there
The Red highlited names are the places you have to google it to find the races. Most of them is a town or the specific race track like Laguna Seca for example.
" Módosítva: 2010. 02.24.
RALLYE szakág versenyei
Országos Rallye Bajnokság
időpont Esemény neve Tipus Helyszín Rendező
2010. 03.26-28. Start Autó Rallye 2010 ORB Eger Laroco Motorsport Egyesület
2010. 04.23-25. 17.Miskolc Rally ORB B-A-Z megye North-Country kft.
2010. 05.21-23. Salgó-Gemer Rally ORB Salgótarján+Szlovákia D-Moto kft.
2010. 07.15-18 Veszprém Rallye 2010 ORB Veszprém Laroco Motorsport Egyesület
2010. 08.19-21.. 7.Borsod Rally ORB B-A-Z megye North-Country kft.
2010. 10.15-17. 43. Allianz Rallye ZT+ORB Pécs és környéke J-Group Fotoprint Hungary Kft.
Országos Rallye2 Bajnokság
2010. 03.26-28. Start Autó Rallye 2010 R2 Eger Laroco Motorsport Egyesület
2010. 04.23-25. 17.Miskolc Rally R2 B-A-Z megye North-Country kft.
2010. 05.21-23. Salgó-Gemer Rally R2 Salgótarján+Szlovákia D-Moto kft.
2010. 07.15-18 Veszprém Rallye 2010 R2 Veszprém Laroco Motorsport Egyesület
2010. 08.19-21.. 7.Borsod Rally R2 B-A-Z megye North-Country kft.
2010. 10.15-17. 43. Allianz Rallye ZT+OB+Hist EB Pécs és környéke J-Group Fotoprint Hungary Kft.
Országos Historic Rallye Bajnokság
2010. 03.26-28. Start Autó Rallye 2010 Historic OB Eger Laroco Motorsport Egyesület
2010. 04.23-25. 17.Miskolc Rally Historic OB B-A-Z megye North-Country kft.
2010. 05.21-23. Salgó-Gemer Rally Historic OB Salgótarján+Szlovákia D-Moto kft.
2010. 10.15-17. 43. Allianz Rallye Historic EB+ZT+Historic OB Pécs és környéke J-Group Fotoprint Hungary Kft.
DUNA AUTÓ Autós Gyorsasági Országos Bajnokság és nemzetközi versenyek
2010. 04.30-05.02. Material Kupa ZT+OB Hungaroring Főnix MSE
2010. 05.28-30. Pannónia-Ring Tavaszi forduló OB Pannóniaring HB ASE
2010. 06.26-27. Slovakia-Ring Futam OB Slovakiaring HB ASE
2010. 07.02-04. World Series by Renault (4 versenykategória) NK Hungaroring Főnix MSE
2010. 07.30-08.01. Forma 1 Magyar Nagydíj + betétversenyek VB Hungaroring Hungaroring Sport ZRT
2010. 08.21-22. Le Mans Series - 1000 km of the Hungaroring NK Hungaroring Főnix MSE
2010. 08.21-22. Radical European Masters NK Hungaroring Főnix MSE
2010. 08.27-29. Pannónia-Ring Őszi forduló OB Pannóniaring HB ASE
2010. 09.03-05. Ferrari Racing Days Budapest (2 versenykategória) NK Hungaroring Főnix MSE
2010. 09.24-26. Gyorsasági OB OB Salzburgring (A) Autós Gyorsasági szakág
OFF-ROAD szakág versenyei
DUNA AUTÓ RALLYCROSS Országos Bajnokság és nemzetközi versenyek
2010. 04.04-05. * Rallycross OB OB+DIV 9 Máriapócs Rabócsiring Kft
2010. 04.24-25. * Rallycross OB OB Sosnova (CZ) Off-Road szakág
2010. 05.22-23. * Rallycross OB+ZT ZT+OB+DIV 9 Máriapócs Rabócsiring Kft
2010. 06.04-06 FIA Rallycross EB EB Nyirád Kapitány AMSE
2010. 06.19-20. * Rallycross OB OB Slomczyn (PL) Off-Road szakág
2010. 07.24-25. Rallycross OB OB+DIV 9 Nyirád Kapitány AMSE
2010. 07.31-08.01. * Rallycross OB OB Sedlcany (CZ) Off-Road szakág
2010. 08.21-22. * Rallycross OB OB+DIV 9 Nagydobos Nagydobosi ASE
2010. 09.04-05. * Rallycross OB OB+DIV 9 Greinbach (A) Off-Road szakág
2010. 09.25-26. * Rallycross OB / csak DIV 9 OB csak DIV 9 Dömsöd Off-Road szakág
2010. 10.09-10 * Rallycross OB OB+DIV 9 Fuglau (A) Off-Road szakág
* = szakági és nemzetközi tárgyalás alatt
DUNA AUTÓ AUTOCROSS Országos Bajnokság és nemzetközi versenyek
2010. 05.08-09. * Autocross OB OB Dömsöd Off-Road szakág
2010. 06.05-06. * Autocross OB OB Túrkeve Túrkevei VSE
2010. 06.19-20. * Autocross OB OB Szeghalom Off-Road szakág
2010. 07.10-11. * Autocross Zóna Trófea+OB ZT+OB Nagydobos Nagydobosi ASE
2010. 07.24-25. Autocross OB OB Nyirád Kapitány AMSE
2010. 08.07-08. * Kevi Kupa Autocross ZT+OB Túrkeve Túrkevei VSE
2010. 08.28-29. FIA Autocross EB EB Nyirád Kapitány AMSE
2010. 09.25-26. * Autocross OB OB Dömsöd Off-Road szakág
* = szakági és nemzetközi tárgyalás alatt
TEREP-RALLYE Országos Bajnokság és nemzetközi versenyek
2010. 03.26-28. Mohács Kupa OB Mohács Navigátor Sportmédia kft.
2010. 04.09-11. Derecske Kupa OB Derecske-Nagyvárad (RO) Vital-Sziget kft.
2010. 05.07-09. II. Rábaköz Kupa ZT+OB Kapuvár Navigátor Sportmédia kft.
2010. 06.18-20. MetalCom kupa Fábiánsebestyén OB Fábiánsebestyén GarZone R.O.P. kft
2010. 07.15-18. PROHUN 500 ZT+OB Gyula Sólyom Team MSE
2010. 08.26-29. VII. Sweet-Milk HunGarian Baja NK+OB Budapest-Dabas GarZone R.O.P. kft
2010. 09.17-19. VIII. GarZone-Slovakian Baja ZT+OB Borsky Mikulas (SK) GarZone R.O.P. kft
2010. 11.12-14. Raid of the Champions OB Kisbér GarZone R.O.P. kft
DRAG Országos Bajnokság
2010. 04.25-25. Drag OB OB Kiskunlacháza N.U.T.R.I.F.E.R-Hartyán SE
2010. 05.09-09. * Drag OB OB Sármellék Drag szakág
2010. 07.17-17. Drag OB OB Kiskunlacháza N.U.T.R.I.F.E.R-Hartyán SE
2010. 08.22-22. Drag OB OB Kunmadaras S-Riders kft.
2010. 09.11-11. Drag OB OB Kiskunlacháza N.U.T.R.I.F.E.R-Hartyán SE
* = szakági egyeztetés alatt
GOKART Országos Bajnokság
2010. 04.10-11. Gokart OB és Zóna Trófea OB+ZT Kecskemét Kecskeméti Motorsport Egyesület
2010. 05.08-09. Gokart OB OB+osztrák Greinbach (A) Kálmán Motorsport Egyesület
2010. 05.22-23. Gokart Zóna Trófea és OB OB+ZT Pannóniaring 2005-Visual SE
2010. 06.18-19. Gokart OB OB+osztrák Pannóniaring 2005-Visual SE
2010. 07.30-08.01. Gokart OB OB Kecskemét Kecskeméti Motorsport Egyesület
2010. 08.19-20. Gokart OB / Hírös Kupa OB Kecskemét Kecskeméti Motorsport Egyesület
2010. 08.21-22. Gokart OB OB+NK Győr (utcai verseny) Street Race in the City !!!! Kálmán Motorsport Egyesület
2010. 09.25-26. Gokart OB OB Bruck (A) Kálmán Motorsport Egyesület
2010. 10.09-09. Gokart OB OB Kecskemét Kecskeméti Motorsport Egyesület
FIA ZÓNA Szlalom trófea
2010. 05.16-16. Szlalom Zóna és OB ZT+OB Kecskemét HegCsi kft. "
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Would be curious to see how you asked the question as that could have influenced the response. Who did you hear back from: Doug, J.B., or Mike?
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damn last time i was there you didnt showed up... I could have take you some places LOL
Here is the Videos i put it up here location:
2010. 06.- 04-06 2010 Nyirad EU Championship
location:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie...0&iwloc=A&sa=X
http://www.maplandia.com/hungary/veszprem/nyirad/
20 minutes from my City / Veszprem/
a lot more info here in english
http://www.rallycross.hu/index.php?language_code=en
here is the Official schedule of the Hungarian rally and motorsport. These are bigger events but sure you can find many many more local and medium events. They are usually just as good. All out events
You just need to google out the Place they holding it. The places are usually very small and a lots of people involved. So not hard to find the event for sure.
Also most of the time looks like a Macy's Parade so everybody is out there
Mar 1, 2010, 10:33 AM
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I agree, any jump that's a car breaker is dumb but from what I hear, the jump at NJMP will be more than a traditional style Rally Cross jump...
Would be curious to see how you asked the question as that could have influenced the response. Who did you hear back from: Doug, J.B., or Mike?
Would be curious to see how you asked the question as that could have influenced the response. Who did you hear back from: Doug, J.B., or Mike?
I didn't ask for written permission to post the reply, so I'll just say it was one of the guys you listed. FWIW, that's not to say that there won't be a larger version of jumps seen at Euro Rallycrosses, but I take the reply to mean we won't have to deal with a gap jump. Rally cars can catch all kinds of air with proper suspension, so as long as its smooth/gradual takeoff and landing area, I don't see huge problems. I do expect that RA will try to make the US series unique, so if the format proves successful, I can see them looking for ways to ramp up the excitement, but if 80% of the cars leave with terminal damage, they may not see many return customers. Without the entrants, there is no long term success.
Here's the email I sent:
Hi Guys,
Not sure who was the right guy to ask with this question, so I've copied you in. I've started hearing rumors of an "X-games" type jump in the rallycross. From a privateer standpoint (and safety standpoint), I can't fathom how this would work, as enough guys destroy cars on the gap jump without having to worry about getting bumped as you take off.
I know Euro rallycross programs almost always feature places where you'll catch air, so I've got no issues with that at all. I was just curious if you had any details on the features that might find their way into the course that you're able to share?
Thanks!
Dave Kern
...trying to figure out what car I'll bring out...
Mar 1, 2010, 08:35 PM
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I didn't ask for written permission to post the reply, so I'll just say it was one of the guys you listed. FWIW, that's not to say that there won't be a larger version of jumps seen at Euro Rallycrosses, but I take the reply to mean we won't have to deal with a gap jump. Rally cars can catch all kinds of air with proper suspension, so as long as its smooth/gradual takeoff and landing area, I don't see huge problems. I do expect that RA will try to make the US series unique, so if the format proves successful, I can see them looking for ways to ramp up the excitement, but if 80% of the cars leave with terminal damage, they may not see many return customers. Without the entrants, there is no long term success.
Here's the email I sent:
Hi Guys,
Not sure who was the right guy to ask with this question, so I've copied you in. I've started hearing rumors of an "X-games" type jump in the rallycross. From a privateer standpoint (and safety standpoint), I can't fathom how this would work, as enough guys destroy cars on the gap jump without having to worry about getting bumped as you take off.
I know Euro rallycross programs almost always feature places where you'll catch air, so I've got no issues with that at all. I was just curious if you had any details on the features that might find their way into the course that you're able to share?
Thanks!
Dave Kern
...trying to figure out what car I'll bring out...
Here's the email I sent:
Hi Guys,
Not sure who was the right guy to ask with this question, so I've copied you in. I've started hearing rumors of an "X-games" type jump in the rallycross. From a privateer standpoint (and safety standpoint), I can't fathom how this would work, as enough guys destroy cars on the gap jump without having to worry about getting bumped as you take off.
I know Euro rallycross programs almost always feature places where you'll catch air, so I've got no issues with that at all. I was just curious if you had any details on the features that might find their way into the course that you're able to share?
Thanks!
Dave Kern
...trying to figure out what car I'll bring out...
Mar 1, 2010, 08:39 PM
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Its just the pinball/bumper car damage that's going to be expensive to fix, and I don't want to ruin a perfectly nice car if I don't have the budget/sponsors to put it back into tip-top shape afterwords.
Dave
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I'm trying to figure out the $$ side of getting our car out there. Travel, service crew & repairs won't come cheap for this series. The nice thing is that since my car doesn't see actual rally use right now, I'm looking at making some 'rallycross' type mods to make the car more competitive. Since our team's focus has always been PPIHC, we're used to dealing with the dual surface (tarmac & gravel) that we'll find in NJ.
On the power side of things I don't think we'll be too far off the mark, as I've got a good turbo to run on the restrictor, I just need to get a 45mm restrictor milled and have the car re-tuned.
Dave
On the power side of things I don't think we'll be too far off the mark, as I've got a good turbo to run on the restrictor, I just need to get a 45mm restrictor milled and have the car re-tuned.
Dave
Might be able to help you out with a more local service crew for the event so you don't have to drag ppl from out west. They are currently building rally cars themselves and have experience with Evos so something that might make it easier. Let me know if its something you're interested in and I'll ask them.
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