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Old Feb 24, 2012, 09:12 AM
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17" rims that fit over Alcon mono6 343mm

I've recently purchased Alcon Advantage Extreme mono6 343mm front brake kit (the same as fitted on FQ400), and now it looks like I won't be able to fit my RPF1 17*8.5 +30 over these brakes (overall diameter needed for the brakes is 386mm+clearance, I guess it should be 396+mm, inner diameter of my rims is ~375mm). I know for sure that stock EvoIX Enkei and FQ400 Team Dynamics fit over these brakes, but those are a bit heavier than I'd like 'em to be.

Hence, the question is - what 17*9 rims will fit over these brakes?

I'm particularly interested in Wedssport TC105N 17*9 +25 or +35 and BuddyClub P1 Racing QF 17*9 (as those are lightweight and somewhat reasonably priced).

All the comments and experiences are highly appreciated - thank you for sharing.

PS don't blame me for buying brakes w/o making sure that those will fit under my rims - I've anticipated such situation and it is simply another reason to get new nice (I hope so) rims

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Old Feb 24, 2012, 09:26 AM
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Buy some 18x9.5's or bigger. You can run 265's-285's
Old Feb 24, 2012, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
Buy some 18x9.5's or bigger. You can run 265's-285's
I don't want to go 18" because of weight and price, tire wider than 255/40 would require fender work - I don't want to. Based on this 17*9 ~+30 w/ 255/40/17 is what fit my goals well.
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You don't have enough rubber under your car to justify the brakes. Just my opinion.

Put some 285/30/18 Hoosiers on it... 18x10's and then you can use those brakes like they were meant to be used.
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I believe it truly depends on the goals. I've decided to get these brakes only because my stock blackbos started exhibiting a bit more flex, than I'd like to see for the brake caliper. Taking into account I needed to get new calipers, rotors (my 2-piece Girodisc rotors are not going to last forever) and pads (at least together with the new rotors) - price difference was not that insane and at least this new Alcon brakes saves me from bothering with all that rebuilding, etc. Even more - I'm not going to drive Rcomps (will go with 255/40/17 R-S3) - so there is no practical and objective justification for these brakes. I just simply decided I'd like to try them after having last year a bit more issues with OEM blackbos, than I'd like to have. One of the factors for the choice was the possibility to fit 17" rims.

Any ideas regarding TC105N, P1 QF or any other lightweight 17*9 rims over this?

Information regarding inner diameter of the rims would help me a lot as well. Anyone with 17*9 TC105N, P1 QF or something similar in terms of pricing and performance?
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the FQ400 used Team Dynamics 17x9 wheels, have you looked into those?
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Originally Posted by fwd_josh
the FQ400 used Team Dynamics 17x9 wheels, have you looked into those?
Yup, just don't like the design and weight. Also FQ400 wwas fitted with 17*8 TD, but 17*9 are also available. Anyway, too heavy - I'm not willing to get anything significantly heavier, than my current RPF1 (+~3lbs per rim is too much in my opinion).

Thank you for the input!
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have you looked at the Enkei PF01's?
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Originally Posted by fwd_josh
have you looked at the Enkei PF01's?
Yup, but those are not available in 17x9 (8.5 only) and even in 8.5 the ET is +40 - the fitment won't be good. Unwilling to go with spacers if I can avoid 'em.
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hmmm. can you get inside measurements of the Team Dynamics wheels? then you could compare with other wheels. i cant think of any other 17" with that much clearance. NTO3+m's?!!? they make a 17x9.5 +38.....

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Overall diameter of the brakes is 386mm, inner diameter of the stock rims is ~400mm - so 7mm clearance (I guess it is fine). I imagine inner diameter for TDs is ~ that of the stock Enkei.

What I try to find is the inner diameter of other lightweight 17*9 rims available or, in case anyone know, experiences with fitting 17*9 rims over these brakes.
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your best bet would be, talk to the actual manufacturers of the wheels you're looking at, or TireRack.com. those are the only people i can think of that would have those measurements.

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When I bought my 360mm AP rotors and WTCC monoblock calipers we ended up cuttting the rotors down less than 1/8" to fit my RPF-1 17" wheels with a 18mm offset. The custom machined caliper mounting brackets hold them within a sand grain of touching the wheel. The caliper design dictates what is possible fitting the largest possible rotor within the wheel size. You will have to decide whether to move up wheel size or have new caliper brackets made to fit them in your existing wheel size. Then balancing them with your rears is another subject.
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I need a set of 17's also that I can put drag tires on so I don't have to change my calipers and rotors back to stock.
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IMO you need at least 5-7mm of clearance between any brake components and the wheel. The guy above describing the clearance as less than a sand grain doesn't seem to realize that wheels flex and when you don't have enough clearance the caliper will scrape the wheel.

Have you checked the Advan RG and RS? I know that people were able to make them barely clear the 355 Alcon Mono6 with a 17x9, so you should have plenty of room with the advan wheels.


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