5th Gear
#16
Andy, you also run a fairly low rev limiter too don't you?
Its always good to try and be smooth with all your shifting. Makes for a much happier car. Plus, 5th gear is a long shift so its not going to be quick either way. I do run a short shifter tho and it really helps.
Its always good to try and be smooth with all your shifting. Makes for a much happier car. Plus, 5th gear is a long shift so its not going to be quick either way. I do run a short shifter tho and it really helps.
#17
So if you are not willing to go in to 5th because you are affraid to stress your tranny, why are you doing hpde in the first place ?
You are willing to redline 4th, or basically slow down just to avoid the 5th. Hmmmmm me thinks you should be doing autoX. You wont get out of 2nd
There is a lot of stress on every aspect of the car while racing. If it breaks, its part of the game, you fix it and get back. If you want to take it easy, just save youself $ and do autoX.
I bet that guy in 300z was overtaken on straight multiple times lolz
You are willing to redline 4th, or basically slow down just to avoid the 5th. Hmmmmm me thinks you should be doing autoX. You wont get out of 2nd
There is a lot of stress on every aspect of the car while racing. If it breaks, its part of the game, you fix it and get back. If you want to take it easy, just save youself $ and do autoX.
I bet that guy in 300z was overtaken on straight multiple times lolz
#18
Never heard that before and I've been to NJMP plenty of times. Some cars actually have longer gearing, which may be why the guy stayed in fourth. My younger brother with a 240sx stays in fourth. From my experience and deing in other Evos, we hit fourth out of the bulb, and I short shift to 5th...short as in 5.5-6k rpm.
Watch some of Honda-guys videos from Lightning for good reference.
Watch some of Honda-guys videos from Lightning for good reference.
#19
like was said, the issue comes from loading up 5th gear at low rpm's, and it leads to engine damage not trans damage.
i have also now started running a little less boost in 5th as was mentioned out of precaution.
there is no reason at all to worry about putting the car in 5th.
#20
If I didn't have to arrive and drive, I would almost want to do away with my 5th cruising gear and just use 5th from an MR tranny or something.
Not happy about it, starting to think about transmission rebuilds already.
#21
I had the 5th gear synchro crunch when I bought the car at 30k miles. When my clutch blew at 60k, I sent the tranny to Shep for a rebuild. I shift to 5th regularly on track with no worries.
#22
#23
Andy, you also run a fairly low rev limiter too don't you?
Its always good to try and be smooth with all your shifting. Makes for a much happier car. Plus, 5th gear is a long shift so its not going to be quick either way. I do run a short shifter tho and it really helps.
Its always good to try and be smooth with all your shifting. Makes for a much happier car. Plus, 5th gear is a long shift so its not going to be quick either way. I do run a short shifter tho and it really helps.
7800rpm. I could probably go a bit higher. But even at ACC I'd still be shifting into 5th gear between 10 and 11. At RA I was going into 5th a LOT (obviously) with an average speed of about 100mph over the 4mile track.
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#26
Never heard that before and I've been to NJMP plenty of times. Some cars actually have longer gearing, which may be why the guy stayed in fourth. My younger brother with a 240sx stays in fourth. From my experience and deing in other Evos, we hit fourth out of the bulb, and I short shift to 5th...short as in 5.5-6k rpm.
Watch some of Honda-guys videos from Lightning for good reference.
Watch some of Honda-guys videos from Lightning for good reference.
Lightning is a fast track and fifth is used often.
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Your senses are top notch. Your reasoning on the other hand...
You are tracking your car and are affraid to get into a gear because it may break, cause a guy in 300z said so.
Ive been doing hpde in north east for a few years now, and I drove to and from track in my evo pulling a small trailer with wheels and equipment. I know how you feel. But improving skills also means pushing car to its limits. And you should understand that sometimes it means sh•t breaks. If you redlining 4th in the straight you should know this is not te fastest way and you must shift to 5th no matter what you have heared. Im assuming you are improving your skills to go faster not slower. So shift away and what will happen will happen. Otherwise go for a nice cruize on belt parkway, and practice without worrying something will break
You are tracking your car and are affraid to get into a gear because it may break, cause a guy in 300z said so.
Ive been doing hpde in north east for a few years now, and I drove to and from track in my evo pulling a small trailer with wheels and equipment. I know how you feel. But improving skills also means pushing car to its limits. And you should understand that sometimes it means sh•t breaks. If you redlining 4th in the straight you should know this is not te fastest way and you must shift to 5th no matter what you have heared. Im assuming you are improving your skills to go faster not slower. So shift away and what will happen will happen. Otherwise go for a nice cruize on belt parkway, and practice without worrying something will break
I sense a little sarcasm in your critique. HPDE is to improve driving and track skills. If you read my initial thread topic story you would see that this was experimental to see how it would affect my overall speed, time, and quickness out of the bulb into the straight away and turn 1. I don't have a trailer to take my car to and from the track so a broken tranny on the track is the last thing I want when I have to drive 3 hours to head back home. If you have nothing positive to stay or constructive criticism, keep it to yourself.
#28
I thought Honda-girl didn't have stock gear ratios. He shifts to third in a lot of place I wouldn't think I could. He is a much better and experienced driver than me.
This is just silly. If you're running novice group I could this as being ok but running higher run groups with other cars (especially German car) you'd be getting your *** run over down the straight in fourth gear. You should be entering the bulb at the top of fourth then scrubbing speed to apex then shifting to fifth just before the bump before the pit entry.
Lightning is a fast track and fifth is used often.
This is just silly. If you're running novice group I could this as being ok but running higher run groups with other cars (especially German car) you'd be getting your *** run over down the straight in fourth gear. You should be entering the bulb at the top of fourth then scrubbing speed to apex then shifting to fifth just before the bump before the pit entry.
Lightning is a fast track and fifth is used often.
#29
I thought Honda-girl didn't have stock gear ratios. He shifts to third in a lot of place I wouldn't think I could. He is a much better and experienced driver than me.
This is just silly. If you're running novice group I could this as being ok but running higher run groups with other cars (especially German car) you'd be getting your *** run over down the straight in fourth gear. You should be entering the bulb at the top of fourth then scrubbing speed to apex then shifting to fifth just before the bump before the pit entry.
Lightning is a fast track and fifth is used often.
This is just silly. If you're running novice group I could this as being ok but running higher run groups with other cars (especially German car) you'd be getting your *** run over down the straight in fourth gear. You should be entering the bulb at the top of fourth then scrubbing speed to apex then shifting to fifth just before the bump before the pit entry.
Lightning is a fast track and fifth is used often.
I use 5th on both the Bridge straight and the Main straight.