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How does the ACD reflash and rear diff effect spring rates?

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Old Nov 3, 2015, 09:32 AM
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Another bit i want to add. I was also from the camp that prefer larger spring rates in the rear, which is contrary to all motorsports level suspension enginering.

Then i started playing with my rake and jesus christ. 6mm more rake made the difference between a balanced setup at 8/9 spring rates and rear sway at soft, to a setup that is wildly uncontrollable in oversteer. I moved my rear sway to full soft and reduced rake to control it a bit better

This gives me a hunch that perhaps a spring choice based on corner weights would be best, using rake to manipulate your roll couple and control load transfer front/rear. This deserves serious experimentation.
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Originally Posted by hispanicpanic
I'd be willing to bet its more of a bushing issue. I've felt shudders before on my BMW during braking and some turns and it was because the front control arm bushings were beyond shot. The control arms were literally banging inside of its worn out bushing.

What do you have for aftermarket bushings? Engine? Transmission? driveshaft? diff? control arms?

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Originally Posted by hispanicpanic
Another bit i want to add. I was also from the camp that prefer larger spring rates in the rear, which is contrary to all motorsports level suspension enginering.

Then i started playing with my rake and jesus christ. 6mm more rake made the difference between a balanced setup at 8/9 spring rates and rear sway at soft, to a setup that is wildly uncontrollable in oversteer. I moved my rear sway to full soft and reduced rake to control it a bit better

This gives me a hunch that perhaps a spring choice based on corner weights would be best, using rake to manipulate your roll couple and control load transfer front/rear. This deserves serious experimentation.
The reason for a stiffer rear rate is because that is what the car comes, a rear rata that is about 25% stiff than the front. This is due to the rear suspension having a slower motion ratio for the shock. Evo's are about a 60/40 weight bias. BUT, the front motion ratio is very close to 1:1, while the rear is around 1.3:1 (the wheel moves 30% further than the shock)
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Originally Posted by hispanicpanic
note how they say stagger is traditional. then again, you drive a 10, which I think people do run square rates. we're talking about 8/9s here.

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