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Old Apr 14, 2015, 09:52 AM
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Alignment Question

So i have tried doing some searching but nothing really came up to help me with the issue. So i had an alignment done and tried to get more camber out of the front and the best i could get was -2.8 on the left and -2.5 on the right. And i have coilovers that have the adjustment on the top as well. Well i have more room to move the coilovers in to get a little more camber but the guy doing my alignment said that if i move them all the way in my tie rod arm will only be hanging on by about 2 threads. And that doesnt seem very safe to have it like that..god forbid it comes off on the race track. So i took it to the road course at gateway this weekend. And had some understeer issues so im pretty sure i need to find a way to get more camber to help fix my problem. O and rear camber is set to -2. Any ideas on extended tie rod ends or how i can get more negative camber in the front?
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The whiteline rod ends are almost a must, but you'll obv need to get aligned again when you do those and the kunckle.
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So the whiteline bumpsteer kit comes with looks like ball joints and tie rods and tie rod ends. So the ones it comes with are longer then huh?
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Originally Posted by hoobastnk90
. And had some understeer issues so im pretty sure i need to find a way to get more camber to help fix my problem.
What's the rest of the setup? I mean, a little more camber would be nice, but there are a lot of things you can do to change how the car handles. Toe, spring rate, tire pressures, shock adjustments, driving style, differentials, etc etc.
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I'm not sure I follow. Evo's have rear steer (steering rack behind axle centerline) so adding negative camber requires shortening of the tie rods. Not sure how you are in danger of a tie rod falling off with increased negative camber.
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I was just relaying what the guy doing my alignment was telling me. Maybe i need to find somebody else. I have -2.5 front -2.0 rear and zero toe all around. I run Nitto NT-01. And the problem i am having is i am getting a lot of understear. I just have tein street flex coilovers.
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What are your spring rates?
Old Apr 15, 2015, 09:44 AM
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Im sure there hurting me but i think the tein kit comes with a 10k front and 8k rear spring rate.
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Front Spring Rate: 9.0 kgf/mm (504 lbs/in)
Rear Spring Rate: 8.0 kgf/mm (448 lbs/in)

i found the correct spring rates that they come with.
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Originally Posted by hoobastnk90
Front Spring Rate: 9.0 kgf/mm (504 lbs/in)
Rear Spring Rate: 8.0 kgf/mm (448 lbs/in)

i found the correct spring rates that they come with.
Are the front and rear springs interchangeable? Those rates need to be flipped.
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hmm not sure i can ask tein and ask them. Yea i wish i could get some nicer coilovers but i gotta work with what i got. I will ask tein and report back !
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What MouseIX said and you could probably stand to reduce rear camber a touch. What tire pressures do you run?
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After a 20 minute session i had them at about 34 psi.
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i tried to call tein but they dont awnser there phone so i called evasive and they said i may be able to but they werent really sure. They reccommended maybe just installing some swift springs instead but said they wouldnt go over 10k in the rear because the struts may need to be revalved if i do.
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don't take this the wrong way, but what about the driver. any in car video?


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