Fire system discussion
Dec 17, 2015, 07:39 AM
#17
My experience if you build a race car you don't use Turbo cooling feeding lines.
Engine and cooling system doesn't really need and extra component which will make the system hotter and therefore adding extra stress.
Yes it does makes the Turbo life shorter, but its a race car, so the safety is more important then a Turbo life span maybe two (if) events more.
I have an ALS , and I don't have a feeding line. My turbos doesn't die fast.
about fire extuingishers.
this is my system, its not electrical, cable triggered from inside and out.
inside , we both can reach it, also the first picture you see one additional fire extuingisher for a co driver:
outside right under the letter E on the codriver side next to the windshield wiper
in the cabin system:
at the A pillar bar on the top pointing one of that nozzle to the co-driver from above, same as the driver side:
at the bar junction at the below, one nozzle pointing from below to the co-driver same as the driver side
at the far strut tower pointing to electrical components at the closer strut tower pointing to the back of the engine:
I hope this is somewhat its a good info .
Rob
Dec 17, 2015, 08:07 AM
#18
So besides your...french....accent killing us 
specify what you mean by cooling. Because most every turbo is Oil cooled. Oem mitsu or mitsu "based" turbos require water cooling as well and it's what most can afford to use. You talking about some exotic sealed turbo?
specify what you mean by cooling. Because most every turbo is Oil cooled. Oem mitsu or mitsu "based" turbos require water cooling as well and it's what most can afford to use. You talking about some exotic sealed turbo?
Dec 17, 2015, 08:30 AM
#21
I am buying them from the Ebay ,used with low mileage. They cost around $400 each. Perfect. Good thing many people think the OEM turbo is garbage ....lol I just have to keep them believe that, and I am fine.
Last edited by Robevo RS; Dec 17, 2015 at 08:35 AM.
Dec 17, 2015, 12:40 PM
#24
Yeeep lol. So no, the OEM turbo has a pressurized oil and water supply (lines). Unless you had all that welded up when you did the restrictor. Or plug the CHRA holes...so it's got (some) oil in there lol.
Last edited by Balrok; Dec 17, 2015 at 12:46 PM.
Dec 17, 2015, 08:11 PM
#25
as much as i know, one is the cooling issiues for the engine
two for the fire safety ( as i posted before that evo burned dowm because the oil line failure)
then, much faster and easier to change turbo during the race (if its fails) because when you have limited time to change things, you dont want to deal with hot oil, engine cooler etc.
thats is all i know.
mechanics always tell me what they do and why, but very few times they tell me how. lol
for me same as an engine tuning. i know what i will get and many times why, but never known how. lol
Dec 18, 2015, 09:06 AM
#26
i dont want to say how they plugged them, because it dont know. i never checked it. But i know its no cooling goes there.
as much as i know, one is the cooling issiues for the engine
two for the fire safety ( as i posted before that evo burned dowm because the oil line failure)
then, much faster and easier to change turbo during the race (if its fails) because when you have limited time to change things, you dont want to deal with hot oil, engine cooler etc.
thats is all i know.
mechanics always tell me what they do and why, but very few times they tell me how. lol
for me same as an engine tuning. i know what i will get and many times why, but never known how. lol
as much as i know, one is the cooling issiues for the engine
two for the fire safety ( as i posted before that evo burned dowm because the oil line failure)
then, much faster and easier to change turbo during the race (if its fails) because when you have limited time to change things, you dont want to deal with hot oil, engine cooler etc.
thats is all i know.
mechanics always tell me what they do and why, but very few times they tell me how. lol
for me same as an engine tuning. i know what i will get and many times why, but never known how. lol
I even remember seeing f1 turbo motors with oil cooling AT LEAST. But still an interesting concept. Even oil filtration which we've seen in pics is an issue. Hard to think "yes I know this will fail during a race but that's ok" rather then the usual "do what it takes for this not to fail, but risk a fire"
Last edited by Balrok; Dec 18, 2015 at 09:18 PM.
Dec 18, 2015, 11:55 AM
#28
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The oil in the turbo is not for cooling, it's for lubrication. A journal; bearing turbo WILL dies in very short time without oil, were talking miles, a few miles, if that. There is not way your turbo is not getting oil, Rob. They may deleted the water lines for better engine cooling while sacrificing turbo life, but I guarantee you the turbo is still getting oil.
Dec 18, 2015, 09:36 PM
#29
The oil in the turbo is not for cooling, it's for lubrication. A journal; bearing turbo WILL dies in very short time without oil, were talking miles, a few miles, if that. There is not way your turbo is not getting oil, Rob. They may deleted the water lines for better engine cooling while sacrificing turbo life, but I guarantee you the turbo is still getting oil.
I remember talking with them taking off the cooling from the turbo. That is why I think ( never checked) the oil is also not there. But I can be very well wrong on that.
Probably the water is off only then . Sorry if i did know wrong.
i might have to really look at my turbo . lol
The water is off for sure.
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