Sup w/them 2024 Fall Projects?
#3766
haha well i've progressed grdually up from 10k, 11k, and now 12k, and it seems like it has really increased the oversteer. i'd like to dial it back if anything. i've still got my tanabe hollow fsb but i think it was a bit too much
#3767
You need to think about where and why its oversteering. If lift, its probably shock or lack of camber. Think about any other fast RWD car, would it also rotate? Trying to get a car perfectly stable pretty much means understeer. Back should move but be controllable when it does.
#3768
You need to think about where and why its oversteering. If lift, its probably shock or lack of camber. Think about any other fast RWD car, would it also rotate? Trying to get a car perfectly stable pretty much means understeer. Back should move but be controllable when it does.
#3769
As Dallas said, first step is figuring out where it's oversteering. Corner entry, mid corner or corner exit. Each one has different fixes.
If it's happening from too much steering angle, then use less angle. If you think about it in a dumbed down sense, the fastest way around a track is the way that allows you to be on the gas the most and turn the steering wheel the least. I haven't seen you drive but the old saying of "smooth is fast" still stands true today.
If it's happening from too much steering angle, then use less angle. If you think about it in a dumbed down sense, the fastest way around a track is the way that allows you to be on the gas the most and turn the steering wheel the least. I haven't seen you drive but the old saying of "smooth is fast" still stands true today.
#3770
It is likely you will need to make more than one change to fix throttle oversteer and not just make it pushier. Like adding more toe-in at the rear or more negative camber at the rear combined eith stiffer rear springs.
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Construct (Nov 17, 2021)
#3772
too much steering angle + gas when it happens, but i feel like it used to just pull out of corners without drama, now it just destroys tire. maybe i should back down to 11k rear. if i did the same in my m3, yes it would totally spin out lol. i can modulate but it's a little tricky with the boost, not much difference between 70% throttle and 90% and 100%. i was hoping to really rely on it's strength of being able to claw out of corners without losing too much traction. might be the diffs too (started using ats 1-way rfont and 1.5-way rear carbon-hybrids this year).
#3773
that is what i was getting at but I'm gonna check my alignment/maybe add some toe in in the rear because i otherwise like how the car behaves.
picked up me Evo today. leak was an oil fitting (not sure which) and they also resealed the oil pan.
here's a pic of the acd and battery relocation. i wanted the whole acd pump in the trunk for reliability
picked up me Evo today. leak was an oil fitting (not sure which) and they also resealed the oil pan.
here's a pic of the acd and battery relocation. i wanted the whole acd pump in the trunk for reliability
#3774
Changing rear spring is a global effect trying to fix a single point characteristic. There are better ways to get the car to put power down than sacrifice the rest of the corner but rear spring should be balancing steady state not transitions. We run dramatically stiffer rears on track without that issue cause we fixed the other things.
#3775
Changing rear spring is a global effect trying to fix a single point characteristic. There are better ways to get the car to put power down than sacrifice the rest of the corner but rear spring should be balancing steady state not transitions. We run dramatically stiffer rears on track without that issue cause we fixed the other things.
#3776
check out this dry ice blasting. This place does mostly p cars but I want my suspension arms done.
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Kevin. (Nov 22, 2021)
#3777
Changing rear spring is a global effect trying to fix a single point characteristic. There are better ways to get the car to put power down than sacrifice the rest of the corner but rear spring should be balancing steady state not transitions. We run dramatically stiffer rears on track without that issue cause we fixed the other things.
Out of the (4) cars we have the 12k is the lightest rear and 18k stiffest. The 18k feels stable on track. I haven’t autox’d it personally but Phouvanh said it’s stable at autox as well.
#3778
As for why some have more rear rotation than others, think about what happens to your roll axis when the front RC drops 3:1 and front drops 1:1.
#3779
Didnt mean to infer you have to have fancy uprights to make it stable, just that the goal should be to do what you can to make more rear spring work. As I keep saying, the more you can make the rear work the less the front has to do.
As for why some have more rear rotation than others, think about what happens to your roll axis when the front RC drops 3:1 and front drops 1:1.
As for why some have more rear rotation than others, think about what happens to your roll axis when the front RC drops 3:1 and front drops 1:1.
#3780
Throttle oversteer on exit is usually an actual goal for any track'd evo lol. Managing that after is just a grip equation which is FAR easier then fixing understeer out of the box so its going the right direction.