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#242
Ive driven a 240z and 914 (both obsurdly modified race only cars) with floor mounts. Not once did I think it was a hindrance in any way or felt weird.
Edit: I was wrong in the 240z, they were hanging. And it wasnt a 240, its a 280... oops.
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Edit: I was wrong in the 240z, they were hanging. And it wasnt a 240, its a 280... oops.
https://www.instagram.com/brokenjawracing/
#244
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I feel like the same can be said for any seat and pedal assembly. Dont get me wrong, a floor mounted box seems to be like legit real race car setup so not saying its not ideal. Just from my limited experience I didn't care for it but that's merely bc I wasn't used to it.
That being said, I dont think the pedal setup on the evo is all that bad; gas pedal is a little low relative to the brake but I have no issues with heel-toe. Unless I were to play around with brake bias I'm nowhere near the point of considering a pedal box.
That being said, I dont think the pedal setup on the evo is all that bad; gas pedal is a little low relative to the brake but I have no issues with heel-toe. Unless I were to play around with brake bias I'm nowhere near the point of considering a pedal box.
#245
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I prefer hanging pedals because I feel it's easier to control pedals with the ***** of my feet and with the floor mounted stuff I find that my heels get in the way a bit which makes it feel clumsier. I'm sure I could adapt to it but I have no issue with hanging pedal setups so no reason to change it.
#247
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i think its got to do with seat position etc. my seat is almost on the floor and i lay quite a long way back with my legs almost straight so its comfortable for me.
The main motivation for going to the pedal box was to run dual masters. when we put the AP 6 pots on the front we couldnt get the brake balance right front to rear and no matter what we were pinching rears.
The main motivation for going to the pedal box was to run dual masters. when we put the AP 6 pots on the front we couldnt get the brake balance right front to rear and no matter what we were pinching rears.
#248
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Floor mounted throttle is the business. Could care less about the clutch and brake pedal.
#249
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I thought the Optima batteries were smaller than the OEM battery?
OEM battery (75D23L or Group 35) is has a footprint around 9" x 6.9". Flip the Deka ETX20L on its side and it has a footprint of 6.9" x 6.2".
Stock battery hold-down bracket goes across the 6.9" dimension, so it drops right on top of the ETX20L. You do need shorter J-hooks and a way to extend the negative battery lead, though.
I'll try to remember to grab a picture next time I'm in the garage.
OEM battery (75D23L or Group 35) is has a footprint around 9" x 6.9". Flip the Deka ETX20L on its side and it has a footprint of 6.9" x 6.2".
Stock battery hold-down bracket goes across the 6.9" dimension, so it drops right on top of the ETX20L. You do need shorter J-hooks and a way to extend the negative battery lead, though.
I'll try to remember to grab a picture next time I'm in the garage.
would these bolt in?
#250
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@Construct what terminals did you use for your setup?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QCBM28/
would these bolt in?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QCBM28/
would these bolt in?
I attached the posts to the side of the battery terminals, not the top, so I could lay the battery flat.
You will also need to extend the negative battery wire if you're going to lay the battery flat. The positive terminal fits, but I had to extend the negative terminal and route it underneath the battery.
Sorry, I still haven't taken engine bay photos. I haven't driven the Evo in a quite a while.
#251
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Yes, I think so. I ordered a similar set of SAE terminals marketed for Odyssey batteries. The exact product I ordered isn't available on Amazon any more, but those look identical from the pictures.
I attached the posts to the side of the battery terminals, not the top, so I could lay the battery flat.
You will also need to extend the negative battery wire if you're going to lay the battery flat. The positive terminal fits, but I had to extend the negative terminal and route it underneath the battery.
Sorry, I still haven't taken engine bay photos. I haven't driven the Evo in a quite a while.
I attached the posts to the side of the battery terminals, not the top, so I could lay the battery flat.
You will also need to extend the negative battery wire if you're going to lay the battery flat. The positive terminal fits, but I had to extend the negative terminal and route it underneath the battery.
Sorry, I still haven't taken engine bay photos. I haven't driven the Evo in a quite a while.
btw, how's the capacity? can it be left off the trickle for a few days, in & outs of the car, etc?
Last edited by kyoo; Jan 23, 2019 at 12:08 PM.
#252
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My Evo pulls around 18mA from the battery when it's turned off. That seems like a lot, but I suspect my cheap Prosport gauges and/or the PLX wideband might have something to do with it. That's about 0.5AH per day. The ETX20L is nominally rated 17.5AH, but lead-acid batteries don't take well to deep cycling and very cold temperatures would cut that number in half. In theory, letting my car sit for a week would drain 20-40% of the battery's capacity depending on the season. That's acceptable, but not great.
If I pull yellow fuse holder up in the engine bay the draw is less than 1mA. If I have to leave the Evo anywhere without a charger, I just pull that fuse block up in the engine bay and I don't have to worry about it at all.
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#253
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I drive the Evo once or twice a week in the summer without attaching a trickle charger. I attach the charger if the car is going to sit for more than a week.
My Evo pulls around 18mA from the battery when it's turned off. That seems like a lot, but I suspect my cheap Prosport gauges and/or the PLX wideband might have something to do with it. That's about 0.5AH per day. The ETX20L is nominally rated 17.5AH, but lead-acid batteries don't take well to deep cycling and very cold temperatures would cut that number in half. In theory, letting my car sit for a week would drain 20-40% of the battery's capacity depending on the season. That's acceptable, but not great.
If I pull yellow fuse holder up in the engine bay the draw is less than 1mA. If I have to leave the Evo anywhere without a charger, I just pull that fuse block up in the engine bay and I don't have to worry about it at all.
My Evo pulls around 18mA from the battery when it's turned off. That seems like a lot, but I suspect my cheap Prosport gauges and/or the PLX wideband might have something to do with it. That's about 0.5AH per day. The ETX20L is nominally rated 17.5AH, but lead-acid batteries don't take well to deep cycling and very cold temperatures would cut that number in half. In theory, letting my car sit for a week would drain 20-40% of the battery's capacity depending on the season. That's acceptable, but not great.
If I pull yellow fuse holder up in the engine bay the draw is less than 1mA. If I have to leave the Evo anywhere without a charger, I just pull that fuse block up in the engine bay and I don't have to worry about it at all.
#255
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additionally, I may instead go with the ETX18L, which is ironically a little bigger than the ETX20L, with 340cca & 20ah @ 18lbs vs the ETX20L with 310cca @ 17.5ah @ 15.5lbs. these are marginal bits but regardless will be lighter than the D51 I purchased.