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Dec 22, 2020, 12:18 PM
#2672
FYI, almost every mitsu warehouse in the US has evo 9 shortblocks still. Called 6 different random dealers. Getting them from Japan is ~ 2-3 months. They also mention evo 8 shortblocks are in stock in some states. Both the Evo 9 and X longblocks are officially out of production but several guys have them. So, it would seem, STM and some others can't stay on the phone long enough and simply don't want to bother. Same goes for bare blocks.
9 retails for 3400, but you can get them for 2850 your cost + 250 to ship anywhere in the US without a liftgate to a comm address. 350 otherwise.
Helps if you spend another few minutes on the phone and don't take someone's word for it that they "nobody has them" *rolls eyes*
9 retails for 3400, but you can get them for 2850 your cost + 250 to ship anywhere in the US without a liftgate to a comm address. 350 otherwise.
Helps if you spend another few minutes on the phone and don't take someone's word for it that they "nobody has them" *rolls eyes*
I need to dive back into my local Facebook Evo community (drama factory) and see if anyone there has a line on Mitsu OEM parts. Need to pick up some wheel bearings and a few other things. Tempted to grab a spare shortblock while I still can.
Dec 22, 2020, 12:19 PM
#2673
It's all about make the system more predictable. It's the same reason we use sphericals for suspension joints. If you have poly or rubber joints, depending on the angle that the joint is torqued at will change the spring force on the bushing at a given ride height. If you remove one degree of freedom (rotation) then that no longer becomes a concern. It's for this same reason that when you move to sphericals you should also increase your spring rates, because you no longer have a bushing spring rate to contribute to your overall wheel spring rate.
By removing stiction from a bar you're able to better predict what the bar is actually doing and how much it's contributing.
Also, if anyone has ever looked at calculating spring rate of a swaybar it's not simple stuff for OE bars. The complex bends that they use alters the rate and makes calculating that much harder. By using a straight bar it's super easy to know what rate you're actually running on the bar.
By removing stiction from a bar you're able to better predict what the bar is actually doing and how much it's contributing.
Also, if anyone has ever looked at calculating spring rate of a swaybar it's not simple stuff for OE bars. The complex bends that they use alters the rate and makes calculating that much harder. By using a straight bar it's super easy to know what rate you're actually running on the bar.
This is how Im able to give my setup with reference to sways bars as a percentage of total roll rate. And how I know stock is 50% of total front roll rate is front bar and 60% rear. In my current setup Im about 16% front and 37% rear. That rear number is also only till a tire comes off the ground.
Dec 22, 2020, 12:44 PM
#2674
EvoM Guru
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@ayoustin , in offroad we use delrin or brass bushings. Both work well.
Dec 22, 2020, 08:43 PM
#2675
FYI, almost every mitsu warehouse in the US has evo 9 shortblocks still. Called 6 different random dealers. Getting them from Japan is ~ 2-3 months. They also mention evo 8 shortblocks are in stock in some states. Both the Evo 9 and X longblocks are officially out of production but several guys have them. So, it would seem, STM and some others can't stay on the phone long enough and simply don't want to bother. Same goes for bare blocks.
9 retails for 3400, but you can get them for 2850 your cost + 250 to ship anywhere in the US without a liftgate to a comm address. 350 otherwise.
Helps if you spend another few minutes on the phone and don't take someone's word for it that they "nobody has them" *rolls eyes*
9 retails for 3400, but you can get them for 2850 your cost + 250 to ship anywhere in the US without a liftgate to a comm address. 350 otherwise.
Helps if you spend another few minutes on the phone and don't take someone's word for it that they "nobody has them" *rolls eyes*
I find the grease to dry up pretty quickly. It also attracts dirt and grit which makes it even worse. What I was after was a more linear feeling. It seemed like prior the car would have a sorta delay to take a set. But it was almost inconsistent as if the stiction was causing it to delay prior. After the tape it seemed to no longer do that. Not sure how much is placebo but its easy and cheap enough to try.
It's been on the car three years and still holding (knocking on wood)
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211Ratsbud (Dec 24, 2020)
Dec 26, 2020, 04:11 PM
#2680
Evolving Member
So what is 12k or 16k? Kg per mm?
My Ohlins are on 80N/mm (456lb/inch) front and 100N/mm (570lb/inch) rear.
Mega soft compared to what you guys are using.
My Ohlins are on 80N/mm (456lb/inch) front and 100N/mm (570lb/inch) rear.
Mega soft compared to what you guys are using.
Dec 26, 2020, 09:14 PM
#2683
You may think its high, but its really not when you consider 1 tire is supporting all of the rear mass. I still have a full 2" of compression in some cases.
Edit: Oh, and also not when you take into account the parallel spring rate of the tire as well.
Edit: Oh, and also not when you take into account the parallel spring rate of the tire as well.
