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#4666
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perhaps, but again need to drop the subframe. it began right after the part install too, so not sure how much that plays into it.
fwiw i was shocked how bad the ap racing brakes were compared to the evo x setup for autox yesterday. it was a cold day but i never had problems before, at least not on the st43's.
car just didn't feel like it had any braking performance. the brakes were bedded before, and if they weren't bedded enough they are now. the brakes did get better through the event, but still just did not have the stopping power i was hoping or expecting, coming from the evo x brembos. but at least i don't need to rebuild for dust boots every year?
fwiw i was shocked how bad the ap racing brakes were compared to the evo x setup for autox yesterday. it was a cold day but i never had problems before, at least not on the st43's.
car just didn't feel like it had any braking performance. the brakes were bedded before, and if they weren't bedded enough they are now. the brakes did get better through the event, but still just did not have the stopping power i was hoping or expecting, coming from the evo x brembos. but at least i don't need to rebuild for dust boots every year?
Gloc and a few other companies will also make their compounds in any shape pad too, just need to contact them.
#4669
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perhaps, but again need to drop the subframe. it began right after the part install too, so not sure how much that plays into it.
fwiw i was shocked how bad the ap racing brakes were compared to the evo x setup for autox yesterday. it was a cold day but i never had problems before, at least not on the st43's.
car just didn't feel like it had any braking performance. the brakes were bedded before, and if they weren't bedded enough they are now. the brakes did get better through the event, but still just did not have the stopping power i was hoping or expecting, coming from the evo x brembos. but at least i don't need to rebuild for dust boots every year?
fwiw i was shocked how bad the ap racing brakes were compared to the evo x setup for autox yesterday. it was a cold day but i never had problems before, at least not on the st43's.
car just didn't feel like it had any braking performance. the brakes were bedded before, and if they weren't bedded enough they are now. the brakes did get better through the event, but still just did not have the stopping power i was hoping or expecting, coming from the evo x brembos. but at least i don't need to rebuild for dust boots every year?
E.g soft pedal, hard pedal, normal pedal but just no stopping performance etc.
Id say its a pad issue you dont have the right pads for the application. Probably not getting them hot enough as the ST43 need a bit of heat to work
#4672
Ds2500 suck ***. If you want to try them (stock brembo sized) I’ll send you mine. I don’t plan on using them. They sucked in initial bite, heat tolerance, total braking, etc. only really on on the street. In which case I’d just toss in some Napa premiums instead.
st43 usually have great sharp response but even when you think they’re hot (autox) they still aren’t hot enough for the release to make the ABS happy. They release too hard and when ABS kicks in the total braking drops dramatically.
st43 usually have great sharp response but even when you think they’re hot (autox) they still aren’t hot enough for the release to make the ABS happy. They release too hard and when ABS kicks in the total braking drops dramatically.
#4673
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I'm on the standard ap racing pad size, whatever that exactly is. I'll take a look at the ferodo line up to see if there is something else more appropriate, but this setup has me missing the Evox/st43 setup.
from a quick search, the dsuno or ds1.11 may be good for an autox option
from a quick search, the dsuno or ds1.11 may be good for an autox option
Last edited by kyoo; Mar 28, 2022 at 05:48 PM.
#4674
EvoM Guru
ST43 might be hard to get working with the ABS as it has such a high bite.
Remember youve got a better caliper now and i think you went to a larger disc also? So your braking setup will be alot more efficient than what it used to be so youll probably need different pads to what you know.
Try get your hands on a set of Pagid RST3, They work from cold so no ABS issues, Have good progressive bite and good fade resistance. Or if you want a little more street go to the RS14. I run RS14 in the back of mine and RST3 in the front with a 362mm rotor on the front.
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deylag (Mar 28, 2022)
#4675
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car just wouldn't stop, nothing specific to mention about the pedal. it did press further down once or twice.
it's a smaller disc, I'm on the 8350 setup so went from 350 to 325. it lacked the initial braking torque I was looking for for autocross. yes, going to try another pad for autocross but I'm not sure if I'll be able to make another event this year
it's a smaller disc, I'm on the 8350 setup so went from 350 to 325. it lacked the initial braking torque I was looking for for autocross. yes, going to try another pad for autocross but I'm not sure if I'll be able to make another event this year
#4676
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car just wouldn't stop, nothing specific to mention about the pedal. it did press further down once or twice.
it's a smaller disc, I'm on the 8350 setup so went from 350 to 325. it lacked the initial braking torque I was looking for for autocross. yes, going to try another pad for autocross but I'm not sure if I'll be able to make another event this year
it's a smaller disc, I'm on the 8350 setup so went from 350 to 325. it lacked the initial braking torque I was looking for for autocross. yes, going to try another pad for autocross but I'm not sure if I'll be able to make another event this year
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Bee-Raddd (Mar 29, 2022)
#4680
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FWIW - Back when, I began glazing ST43's pretty early on brownbo's, they are widely considered a beginner pad that has a very long "medium" torque and heat range. It's a common pad shape on the 8350's, and ST's in that shape will be hella cheaper then the Evo ones. However I would warn that you'll THEN begin complaining that the sweep range of the ST's miss the bottom ~10mm of the disc simply because they aren't made for the kit....DS's are. The DS2500's would provide early torque but will dust a LOT when pushed too long. Great for hill climbing but I wouldn't necessarly track or AX them with Hoosiers on.
A better medium for you may be Carbotech's listed in teh D50 depth. Some examples here: https://discoveryparts.com/carbotech...ctfrp3116.html
A better medium for you may be Carbotech's listed in teh D50 depth. Some examples here: https://discoveryparts.com/carbotech...ctfrp3116.html