COBB Tuning

COBB Tuning takes engine tuning very seriously. So seriously, in fact, that we are introducing the COBB AccessPORT Challenge. We will put the AccessPORT up against ANY other tuning solution out there. Regardless of who or what you are using to tune your vehicle today, we believe you will prefer the results that the AccessPORT provides!

The concept is simple. Visit COBB Tuning Plano or COBB Tuning Surgeline, purchase an AccessPORT and allow our Calibration Specialists to custom tune your ECU at no additional charge. Once the tune is complete, take your car out for a spin to feel the the results and use the AccessPORT. If you are unsatisfied in any way, we will refund the cost of the AccessPORT and return your car to the same setup you arrived with.

COBB Tuning is an automotive engineering company specializing in OEM ECU engine tuning. We develop our own hardware and software tuning tools to meet the tuning needs of the most demanding enthusiasts. We are so confident that you will appreciate the improved performance, driveability, responsiveness and features of the AccessPORT that we will stake your business on it!

So what have you got to lose? Call COBB Tuning Plano or COBB Tuning Surgeline today to schedule your COBB AccessPORT Challenge and experience why the AccessPORT is superior to all other tuning solutions . Our goal is to have you leave us knowing you have the best tuning solution money can buy. We guarantee it!

Some restrictions apply. See stores for details.

COBB Tuning of Plano
214-291-3020

Lancerguy'03

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KevinD and Richard have a challenge?

Kracka

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Interesting idea, but spending almost $700 on something thats out-matched by ECUFlash which is free seems kinda silly to me. Unless the AP has some amazing features that aren't available with ECUFlash?

*edit*
On your website it shows the Evo 8/9 AP has been discontinued.

BOOSTEZ

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Is this for real? Is this for the EVO 8/9?? If so, I'm there..

laramie_05MR

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it has to be for the Xs. There is no way it is better than ECUFlash with Tephra Mod's. 25x30 maps, direct and gear boost, SD, Live mapping......

Kracka

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...NLTS, map-switching, knock SES flash, valet mode, launch maps, etc. Now that Tephra has a X though its only a matter of time before they have all these benefits too.

denver

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Whats the cost of the access port? With ECU flash we have access to virtually every parameter in the ecu for FREE, or at at most (In the DFW area ) for $300 for a complete custom tune if a person doesnt want to spend the time to learn to tune on their own(200 for repeat customers). Also, there is a HUGE following here on the forums that crack, change, and add many features to the stock ECU to better its performance. No Lift to Shift, 30 by 25 cell maps for fuel and spark, a completely separate map for launch control (AKA BUILD BOOST AT THE LINE), integrated map switching on the fly, valet mode, Speed Density, MAP based boost control, and more... all of this is FREE (if you choose Tephra appreciates donations, but its not mandatory) if you spend a little time reading you can learn to tune your own car, and utilize the SAME HARDWARE the car COMES WITH FROM THE FACTORY; no piggy backing, no additional hardware cost, no additional software cost, and some of the best tech support out there... specially for the cost, did I mention its free.

Before you go making claims like this thread, I suggest you spend a little time reading some threads here:
THE BEST EVO ECU ON THE MARKET
or
The best X evo ecu on the market

Im sorry to be somewhat of a Jerk, but I have followed the development of the stock ecu for a long time, and have spent many many many hours reading learning and contributing to the development and in my opinion, using anything outside of the stock ECU is a blatant waste of money, and those pushing these products are ripping off the evo community. Even with the evo X stuff.... there are still issues, but the COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERING their time, cracked the code, developed a means to read and write to the hardware, recoded the logger, and for the most part have a very tunable, functional tuning solution for the STOCK ECU in less than a years time. Several of the major developers now own Xs and the support has increased exponentially, and I can see in the near future surpassing the functionality of the 8/9 hardware. ALL FOR FREE AGAIN!

Im sorry, I dont care what you sell, AEM, Accessport, Haltec, Joe Blow bad A** ecu, no hardware out there will work better on an evo then what it was designed with from the factory.

EDIT*: Tuning price went up $50

goofygrin

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I've had both and the AP is a very neat device. It is not inexpensive though. Like Matthew says below, there are people that it's a good fit for, but honestly those people would potentially be just as well served by a KevinD tune (since they're going to throw the AP into the closet after flashing).

mrMTB

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But Denver, the AccessPort is more akin to an appliance and EcuFlash than a stand alone ECU. The benefit of the AP is that it allows the user to have access to a library of good off the shelf maps, and a convenient appliance that allows the user to reflash or log without having to carry around a laptop. And it allows the stock ECU to be enhanced in the same manner that we do with EcuFlash.

Now I'll be the first to admit that there are plenty of Evo owners for whom the AP is not a good fit. But for those persons who plan on doing modifications within the staged tiers for which Cobb has OTS maps, and they're looking for improved (though not necessarily maxed out) performance, or do not have access to an excellent local tuning shop as we do, then the AP makes a very compelling option.

I applaud Cobb for putting their money where their mouth is - they're ponying up the cost of a custom dyno tune to convince you that their product/service is worth the price of admission.

denver

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I feel, preloaded maps or not, if you are doing custom tune (which is what they are offering), then you are not going to need any preloaded maps. ALSO they claim " AccessPORT is superior to all other tuning solutions" thats a false statement in my opinion. How can you say that an off the shelf solution(aka preloaded maps) will be better than a custom tuning solution? It cant, its like buying a tux off the shelf and just hoping it fits right on your wedding day.... you dont do that. I am 100% against the concept of email, "one size fits all maps" in general. I have log cars with these maps and end up retuning them. So that said, the only proper way to tune a car in general is to tune the car custom, if you are tuning it custom, then why not use the hardware you already paid for when you bough the car.

I will give you that logging and flashing without a laptop would be nice, HOWEVER that is under development with ECU flash currently, even if you have the ability to LOG without a laptop, in order to obtain any useful information about that log, you have to have a laptop, and in order to repair the "trouble spots" you have to have a laptop, why not just log directly to the source? PLUS laptops are so cheap today, for less than $200 (maybe even free) you can have a laptop that will take care of all your tuning and loging needs.

Sorry, Im pretty passionate about the stock ECU development. I have seen quite a few cars unsatisfied with other tuning options, but every one I have, or seen, converted back and tuned on the stock ecu has love it, several quoting "the car has never run better" I will be the first to admit the X tuning has some small issues and challenges currently, but the community is working to improve these small issues, and I assure you that in a very short time these issues/challenges will be a thing of the past. However, even with these issues the ecu is completely tuneable as it is, it just requires a little more detail when tuning.

magyar86

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And they will almost fit in your evo glovebox lol.

As another note to the discussion, there is email tunes out there. There are members on here who will look at your logs, make the needed modifications and email them back. Its as simple as the end user buying a $170 tatrix cable, a wideband serial cable and doing 3 pulls. Super easy, with a few clicks they can get it done without leaving their neighborhood lol (if the streets are big enough). However, some might argue that injector scaling, etc would be fun via email (its been a valid point in other discussions) how else would you do scaling on the cobb? The same thing, drive to get it tuned. Either way ECUflash FTMFW for life. Also, 90% of big turbo members are running speed density or blow thru like myself, where I dont even know if cobb can do the same.

Either way, I aplaud Cobb on this move, it helps for other members not in the Evo community, like the Mazdaspeed3 market, where tuning is little to none. Only thing I see as a problem is the drive to a location to tune lol.

booster9

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you guys are thinking that their only talking about evos... sure the evo specific one may not be the best solution.. but coming from the honda crowd.. new rsxs and SIs require hondata "KPro" which is about $1000 if i remember correctly, and that DOSNT include a tune.. and from tony those are bout 600... obviously the cobb AP would be a muchh better choice. im not sure about subies, nissans etc. but i highly doubt its got an ecu like the evos.. this challenge is not aimed at the evo community, its for everyone. i got a few buddys with hondas and nissans that have already told me their gonna do it.

goofygrin

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My netbook fits like a champ in my glovebox

denver

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I agree 100% The Access port has its place in the tuning world, but its not on an EVO, I even challenge that it doesnt belong on a Suby but I know Cobb is really big in the subi world.....

He posted the thread on an evo forum in an Evo Specific Club, therefore Im pretty sure he was after EVO business.

Kracka

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The Cobb AP is definitely loosing popularity on the Subarus too b/c of ECUFlash. My wife's WRX is ECUFlash tuned.