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Old May 10, 2010, 01:56 PM
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SS brake lines...how beneficial are they, have you noticed a night and day difference between stock lines and SS lines? Do you think pads and fluid are the biggest factors in brakes?

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Old May 10, 2010, 02:17 PM
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I've never switched mine to ss and I seem to be able to get the thing to stop pretty well. I think that it is safe to say that pads and especially fluid make a larger impact on overall braking.
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i dont want them, but my friend Ryan thinks he has to have them. (he has 2010 EvoX)
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Pads and fluid are going to easily be the biggest improvement in the stock braking system. The stock rubber lines are very rigid and reinforced; they aren't just some rubber vacuum line. The main benefit I see in SS lines are preventing deterioration from years of exposure to the elements (which is no where near as bad here as it is in snowy climates where excessive road salt is used).
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Never have I said I "have to" have them.
I think they are a beneficial upgrade, and from the research I've done, I haven't heard bad remarks from getting a quality set. I've seen there have been issues with the Goodridge lines in the past, but I can't see how that applies to all lines.
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the main reason to go braided lines is to protect the line from being cut and to keep the line from bulging when it degrades. They are rubber on the inside anyway and can degrade and leak over time internally.

For $100? Get em. Not a big deal. But pads and fluid made a much bigger change in feel. If you're tracking, get Ti shims and take the dust shields off too.
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Originally Posted by goofygrin
If you're tracking, get Ti shims and take the dust shields off too.
If you remove the shields be sure to protect your ball joints then since they don't like being exposed to a lot of heat.
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Sean, where is the place you mentioned had the great deal on Ti shims?
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not "great deal" but ti-speed.com (D1001 is the front pattern) is where I (and I think Jim?) got mine from.

splparts.com has the Endless RF-650 fluid for the best price I've seen and since they're in Austin you pay tax, but you get it quick.
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Pads and fluid you will notice. Brake lines on the street, you will never notice, on the track maybe.
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over the course of build several track cars, I have used then not used SS brake lines. Never once have I logged or noticed a significant difference. ( small changes in logs, none discernible to driver).

A) remove heat shields
B) use highest temp brake fluid you can afford to run
C) Get pads suited to car power to wt ratio. (ex pagid black RS14 is what I run for 460whp 3078 curb wt) or PF01 less power = less pad needed
D) Bleed brakes often after events



P.S. ask some other members here how after market lines have worked and FAILED for them.

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Originally Posted by Kracka
If you remove the shields be sure to protect your ball joints then since they don't like being exposed to a lot of heat.
there is a joke here somewhere
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Originally Posted by tnt1106
there is a joke here somewhere

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when the fluid heats up under heavy track use or driving, and you push the brake pedal, the stock rubber lines will expand only slightly and more -so as they age. i would only say get them if the car has bdeen highly abused or has high mileage, or of course built as a race car.
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Originally Posted by tnt1106
over the course of build several track cars, I have used then not used SS brake lines. Never once have I logged or noticed a significant difference. ( small changes in logs, none discernible to driver).

A) remove heat shields
B) use highest temp brake fluid you can afford to run
C) Get pads suited to car power to wt ratio. (ex pagid black RS14 is what I run for 460whp 3078 curb wt) or PF01 less power = less pad needed
D) Bleed brakes often after events



P.S. ask some other members here how after market lines have worked and FAILED for them.
Originally Posted by chad99evo
when the fluid heats up under heavy track use or driving, and you push the brake pedal, the stock rubber lines will expand only slightly and more -so as they age. i would only say get them if the car has bdeen highly abused or has high mileage, or of course built as a race car.
very well said,
(since I wasn't asked I've tried to stay out of this, but I have to say),
if it isn't broke, don't fix it...

I've used both stock and stainless lines and I'm one of the many stainless guys who's been off the track at 100mph+ because of a stainless line failure....
(I've never seen a stock line failure on the Evo)

there are SO many/few things to safely enjoy/mod our already track-ready Evos, and this is SO far down the list for 99.99% of us...
lets talk about getting more track time, not mods...
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