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haha not to be biased or anything lol
they have actually built 700+ motors since 2002. there is about a 1% of which may have resulted in an issue. I love people who buy a motor, put it in, plug in an AEM attempt to street tune it, blow the motor and make a fuss online.
I have read the horror stories, and i guess i am a supporter becuase i work there, but it also gives me an opportunity to see the other side of the story.
there truly are people out there that DO NOT deserve a built motor.. for instance people calling in asking, i need fly wheel bolts for my evo. "okay they are $3.00 a pop" Ok, so how many do i need then?
buschur and ams are great companies. the choice is yours
they have actually built 700+ motors since 2002. there is about a 1% of which may have resulted in an issue. I love people who buy a motor, put it in, plug in an AEM attempt to street tune it, blow the motor and make a fuss online.
I have read the horror stories, and i guess i am a supporter becuase i work there, but it also gives me an opportunity to see the other side of the story.
there truly are people out there that DO NOT deserve a built motor.. for instance people calling in asking, i need fly wheel bolts for my evo. "okay they are $3.00 a pop" Ok, so how many do i need then?
buschur and ams are great companies. the choice is yours
Plus the shop itself has no interest in proving that its motors can stand up to anybody elses.
The Owner of SBR IMO isnt even a true to heart enthusiast. He is nothing short of a business man. But he could car less about the sport. Or the results for the end user. I highly doubt he even considers what he can do to contribute to the culture of what we do.
He does not develop, tune , race , build anything . Nothing but cashflow in his brain.
Give me the builder who actually has the personall passion for what we all love. Not some Dick who is looking into his next business venture so he can wipe his hands clean of his current catastrophe. And leave the end user with no support and a garbage result.
Sorry you can be bout it bout it for SBR. I'll just keep quietly rollin with my BR setup.
The name says it all SlowBoyRacing
Oh and before I get accussed of jumping on the hater natiion against SBR. Trust me I have dealt with them
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So for building so many motors you would think that there actually had to be atleast 1 that has done something out of the ordinary with it. To prove its worth. I cant recall any????
Plus the shop itself has no interest in proving that its motors can stand up to anybody elses.
The Owner of SBR IMO isnt even a true to heart enthusiast. He is nothing short of a business man. But he could car less about the sport. Or the results for the end user. I highly doubt he even considers what he can do to contribute to the culture of what we do.
He does not develop, tune , race , build anything . Nothing but cashflow in his brain.
Give me the builder who actually has the personall passion for what we all love. Not some Dick who is looking into his next business venture so he can wipe his hands clean of his current catastrophe. And leave the end user with no support and a garbage result.
Sorry you can be bout it bout it for SBR. I'll just keep quietly rollin with my BR setup.
The name says it all SlowBoyRacing
Oh and before I get accussed of jumping on the hater natiion against SBR. Trust me I have dealt with them
Plus the shop itself has no interest in proving that its motors can stand up to anybody elses.
The Owner of SBR IMO isnt even a true to heart enthusiast. He is nothing short of a business man. But he could car less about the sport. Or the results for the end user. I highly doubt he even considers what he can do to contribute to the culture of what we do.
He does not develop, tune , race , build anything . Nothing but cashflow in his brain.
Give me the builder who actually has the personall passion for what we all love. Not some Dick who is looking into his next business venture so he can wipe his hands clean of his current catastrophe. And leave the end user with no support and a garbage result.
Sorry you can be bout it bout it for SBR. I'll just keep quietly rollin with my BR setup.
The name says it all SlowBoyRacing
Oh and before I get accussed of jumping on the hater natiion against SBR. Trust me I have dealt with them
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Yea I have worked with SBR and they aren't that organized. I ordered parts off there website and they said they were in stock and then got a call an hour later saying they aren't in stock. Then update your F'ing website. BR is really good and down here in VA.....Nick at DTMotorsports in one of the best tuners around!
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yeah i don't think i will ever need to go on a dyno..after all isn't it just for numbers? In the end you can do the same on the street, Datalogging a car will tell you what needs tweaked...
speaking of which i still need to order my damn Tactrix cable and read up more on tuning.
speaking of which i still need to order my damn Tactrix cable and read up more on tuning.
I would prefer to set my car up on a dyno then back it up via the street. Not saying street tuning isnt effective. It just is alot simpler being strapped down and do your tuning thing. make adjustments make a pull repeat process.
Call me a dyno b!tch but I do like to see before and after results and I will pay for them. Of course its only good if you are using same dyno
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Yea I have worked with SBR and they aren't that organized. I ordered parts off there website and they said they were in stock and then got a call an hour later saying they aren't in stock. Then update your F'ing website. BR is really good and down here in VA.....Nick at DTMotorsports in one of the best tuners around!
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A proper tuning tool that can properly load the car is hard to beat. Such as an eddy current load bearing dyno such as a mustang. It is virtually identical to street.
I would prefer to set my car up on a dyno then back it up via the street. Not saying street tuning isnt effective. It just is alot simpler being strapped down and do your tuning thing. make adjustments make a pull repeat process.
Call me a dyno b!tch but I do like to see before and after results and I will pay for them. Of course its only good if you are using same dyno
I would prefer to set my car up on a dyno then back it up via the street. Not saying street tuning isnt effective. It just is alot simpler being strapped down and do your tuning thing. make adjustments make a pull repeat process.
Call me a dyno b!tch but I do like to see before and after results and I will pay for them. Of course its only good if you are using same dyno
The best benefit of the dyno is the before/after numbers so u can watch the changes being good or bad, other than that it doesn't mean much to me. I use datalog lab and when used correctly it can be very effective, I have also got in the habit of calculating logging seconds to see how much time i pick up from change to change. I always try and start around the same rpm and end at the same rpm to get the best guess I can to if my changes are doing good.
I recently did a 1-4 gear pull and my log seconds at the time i went wot in 1st till the time i lifted in 4th (11 mph to 108 mph) was 11.7 sec. That also included shift time and the delay for the car to spool in 1st and take off, I was very pleased with that with where I am at current tune wise, more adjustments to be made as im learning to tune the new fuel....
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Yea I have worked with SBR and they aren't that organized. I ordered parts off there website and they said they were in stock and then got a call an hour later saying they aren't in stock. Then update your F'ing website. BR is really good and down here in VA.....Nick at DTMotorsports in one of the best tuners around!
After arguing for a while it was sent back and another 2 weeks I had the correct turbo - what a waste of time. Not to mention the motor I was going to have built there sat for 4 months untouched, finally i picked it up sent it to a place in State College and it was done in a week. This was all for my old turbo crx I built.....
This was many many years ago - i see not much has gotten better, lol.
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I can agree with tuning on a dyno like mustang is def. nice if you have one available, if setup right they are very close to real world. I mean you will have to fine tweak it on the street and make adjustments at the track to get the most out of it. Not to many people pull a car off the dyno and immediately go fast, the fast guys are making adjustments every run and seeing the mph's go up and et's come down.
The best benefit of the dyno is the before/after numbers so u can watch the changes being good or bad, other than that it doesn't mean much to me. I use datalog lab and when used correctly it can be very effective, I have also got in the habit of calculating logging seconds to see how much time i pick up from change to change. I always try and start around the same rpm and end at the same rpm to get the best guess I can to if my changes are doing good.
I recently did a 1-4 gear pull and my log seconds at the time i went wot in 1st till the time i lifted in 4th (11 mph to 108 mph) was 11.7 sec. That also included shift time and the delay for the car to spool in 1st and take off, I was very pleased with that with where I am at current tune wise, more adjustments to be made as im learning to tune the new fuel....
The best benefit of the dyno is the before/after numbers so u can watch the changes being good or bad, other than that it doesn't mean much to me. I use datalog lab and when used correctly it can be very effective, I have also got in the habit of calculating logging seconds to see how much time i pick up from change to change. I always try and start around the same rpm and end at the same rpm to get the best guess I can to if my changes are doing good.
I recently did a 1-4 gear pull and my log seconds at the time i went wot in 1st till the time i lifted in 4th (11 mph to 108 mph) was 11.7 sec. That also included shift time and the delay for the car to spool in 1st and take off, I was very pleased with that with where I am at current tune wise, more adjustments to be made as im learning to tune the new fuel....
I also used the logging seconds with the AEM to try and calculate wether or not my adjustments were working or not. And obviously you need to work with the same strip of tarmac and rpm start stop points.
And hey you always need to keep looking for more power. When I would go to the track I would already have a few proven altered maps that I would load to see if it would make more steam on the topend.
As you would know Just because the map looks good no knock and it pulls clean on the street dosnt always mean it is actually making more power.
I had a what I thought was going to be a good meth map to run with. I loaded it made some pulls and logged on the street . All looked good no knock and pushing 28 psi. I go to the track the car is down on power with clean logs no knock nothing, boost as flat as can be 28 psi all the way out.
I say F that pull the fuse on the meth turn the boost back down and load my pump map the car picks up 3mph right away.
So even though the meth map looked good on the street it really didnt add up to much at the track. Of course I ended up tweaking things to work with the meth and ended up picking up a few more mph.
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