Kayaalp

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That has nothing to do with it. For one thing, the pics show 2-3 young guys clowing around and a few old project cars that have been in the shop forever. Not exactly the professional image you want to get across. Their labor rates are quite high...so it's natural that you'd expect some professionalism for that kind of money.

I'm NOT saying that this is not a professional operation. From everyone's comments, it's CLEAR that this is a respected shop. My point is only that the WEBSITE does not convey that message.

This wasn't meant as a put-down...I'm just happy that people have turned me on to a shop that I would otherwise not have taken seriously based on the impression I got from their website.

Emre

wingless

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Hmm hmm? New MD!!?? Good to know! Thanks for the info. I didn't see any rates on that link... Any ideas?

chinalfr

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Call. Ask for Carl or do a field trip to Sterling, MA.

I think ESP can organized a dynoday if we get enough people sign up. Anyone interested?

Bimmubishi

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You had an Evo 8 serviced in Canada? I wasn't aware that the car was ever sold there.

-Alex

Bimmubishi

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Kyallp

some of these cars don't fit the image that you're accusing us of setting fourth.

As for the project cars, they're internal projects for the most part and they're also very long term and very innovative which doesn't happen overnight.











-Alex Grabau

Kayaalp

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Look, I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I first saw the website quite some time ago when I came across a post in another forum about a 4G63 powered E30. I checked out the site and poked around. My impression at the time was that it did not appear to be the kind of shop that I was used to, such as Turner Motorsports where I had a lot of work done in the past. This was my impression. Aren't people entitled to form impressions based on what is represented on a website?


That's fair. The cars you currently have on the site are certainly impressive. Actually, the WHOLE site is very different from the one I first saw a year or two ago.

I hope you realize that the WHOLE POINT of my post was to say THANKS. I am very happy that the people on this board have turned me onto your shop. I stated very clearly that my first impression was negative...BUT, based on the glowing endorsements from this board, I looked at the shop in a new light. I don't see why this is being interpreted as bashing.

Emre

Kayaalp

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You're right, the car was never sold in Canada. In fact, Mitsubishi as a brand was not even available in Canada until the 2003 model year.

However, my local dealer (Cite Mitsubishi) used to be an exotic car dealer. Two of the owners had owned older Evos back in Lebanon. They were the local shop that many of the DSM drivers trusted for major work. Their techs were able to service the Evo and get parts and everything without any trouble. They took good care of me for the last couple of years.

The only problem was that they put the wrong gear lube in my t-case once! They used generic Mitsu gear lube (GL-4, non-LSD) instead of the DiaQueen. They killed my t-case. But they recognized that it was their mistake and got me a new t-case under warranty. It was ordered and installed within a day or two. But then again, I've heard of other Mitsu dealers in the US who've done the same thing.

Emre

[BTW, I think it's safe to say that Evos were MUCH better known and respected in Canada than the US before 2003. People are nuts about rally racing here and the Evo is a hero car. There are a bunch of Evo 4's, 5's, and 6's participating in the local Quebec rally circuit. One of our local Mitsu dealers runs an Evo 8 rally car. There is even a local Subaru dealer that offers coilovers, aftermarket ECU's, and other goodies to turn STi's into rally cars. And they don't void your warranty as long as you have them do the install.]

Kayaalp

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God, I love the looks of the Evo 7. I wish we never got stuck with the new front and rear bumpers. The blocky look of the Evo 7 bumpers works so much better with the lines of the car.

Emre

Turbo Meg

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You should take a ride down to DentSport in Norwood! Once you talk to the guys at DentSport it will be clear they know there ****. Al and Bill may be young but they own there own business and have worked very hard to get where they are!

As for there rate $75 bucks an hour is cheap for such complete and detailed work! Check around nothing is cheap in Boston, and they stand by there work.
I won't step foot in a Mitsubishi dealer for service free or not. I love my Evo to much to let the clowns at he local dealer mess it up.

Bottom line if you love and respect your car DentSport is the shop for you!

Kayaalp

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See my posts above. I'll definitely check them out.

I don't find $75 expensive at all. That's the going rate for service at a high-end shop, like Turner Motorsports, VSR, etc. For that money, you expect a certain level of professionalism and know-how. From what everyone says, DSG fits the bill.


Emre

Turbo Meg

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Understood, best regards!

Bimmubishi

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Kayaalp,

No offense taken my friend. I know our site is different than others but that's what we were trying to avoid. You were careful to state your opinion but you were also sharp toned. I hope you can come down and see what we're all about.

Bill and I have spent all of our time, money and energy raising this "child" for two years. We guard our reputation fiercely; especially when we see what kind of waterfall effect the internet can have on a business' reputation (usually from non customers even!)

Bill is a mechanic for Protomotive Mazda on the SCCA professional touring car championship, we service a former WRC Escort for a friend of ours as well as 3 other Pro Rally cars. I've been a mechanical Engineer at BU Center for Space Physics for 3 years prior to opening this shop with Bill.

Our long term projects at this time include what should be the world's fastest Galant VR4 (although there are so many fast ones coming up lately), one of the top 10 most powerful Subarus and there's more to come. This has only been year 1.

We probably won't ever change the site as we're not interested in selling parts online unless it's to an existing walk-in customer or a UK resident etc. This is why our site doesn't say

"click here for manufacturer"
(drops down)
exhaust
engine
suspension
apparel
contact

...with a picture of someone elses' car on the home page.

Thanks for entertaining my response and thanks for everyone else who vouches for us when our name comes up.

Alex

ChangBang

The folks at DSG certainly know their stuff. Right now I have my Evo there for some installations and they have gone out of their way to try and help me put the car together by Monday so I can get it to Dynoflash on time.

Besides, Mitsubishi dealers charge $85 for an hour of work.

There may be other stores that can complete work on your Evo for lower prices, but the quality of their work may not be up to par. I rather pay more and have everything completed in one go, then to pay a lower price and end up having problems.

anjapower

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Jesus Christ...would you take your car to a shop where the owner does stuff like this to your MAF sensor?

fatbastard

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on second thought, their website is kinda shady... and those teef