Worcester/Boston Social Thread
Dec 3, 2008, 02:09 PM
YES!!
EPA docs confirm 2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback coming in GTS and Ralliart trims
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/02/e...coming-in-gts/
EPA docs confirm 2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Sportback coming in GTS and Ralliart trims
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/02/e...coming-in-gts/
Dec 3, 2008, 03:40 PM
@Turco
I think if he actually knew what was done to his ECU, he wouldn't be on here asking questions... because if he knew - he would be using proper terminology, and he would know how to fix his own issues. just going out on a limb here.
@silver9mr
One major point of contention - is that you keep using the term o2 patch... well what patch are you talking about - there are several modifications related to the secondary o2 sensor. at least 1 if not 2 related periphery bits, and an o2 simulator patch.
most people just turn off the secondary o2 periphery bit... this disables the Check engine light, but also makes the secondary o2 readiness test fail.
you can also disable the heater ckt... which again turns off the CEL for the heater circuit, and again causes the readiness test to fail.
you need to have both enabled to pass the o2 readiness test.
the o2 Simulator patch - which it sounds like you do not have installed (this is still unclear) allows you to keep the o2 periphery enabled, and pass the readiness test.
in order to pass the heater test, you need a sensor, or a resistor plugged in....
If you actually did have a resistor plugged in, and the o2 sim patch, you would pass the readiness test... and this can be verified in scantech, or equivelent obd2/emissions scanner.
*takes gun to head
I think if he actually knew what was done to his ECU, he wouldn't be on here asking questions... because if he knew - he would be using proper terminology, and he would know how to fix his own issues. just going out on a limb here.
@silver9mr
One major point of contention - is that you keep using the term o2 patch... well what patch are you talking about - there are several modifications related to the secondary o2 sensor. at least 1 if not 2 related periphery bits, and an o2 simulator patch.
most people just turn off the secondary o2 periphery bit... this disables the Check engine light, but also makes the secondary o2 readiness test fail.
you can also disable the heater ckt... which again turns off the CEL for the heater circuit, and again causes the readiness test to fail.
you need to have both enabled to pass the o2 readiness test.
the o2 Simulator patch - which it sounds like you do not have installed (this is still unclear) allows you to keep the o2 periphery enabled, and pass the readiness test.
in order to pass the heater test, you need a sensor, or a resistor plugged in....
If you actually did have a resistor plugged in, and the o2 sim patch, you would pass the readiness test... and this can be verified in scantech, or equivelent obd2/emissions scanner.
*takes gun to head
Dec 3, 2008, 05:08 PM
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I'm in the same boat as you silver9mr, except I don't have a resistor. once i actually get the chance to go see turco and he fixes my ecu i am going to do the anti fouler which i assume should make me past the heater test and the o2 check test.
phew. long friggen day
phew. long friggen day
Dec 3, 2008, 05:19 PM
yea i wish i knew that the rear 02 deleat actually shut it off because i would have never done it and wouldnt have to go through this stuff
Dec 3, 2008, 06:20 PM
ok guys i dont mean to get impatient but i am going to try to end this discussion.
Ways to successfully run a test pipe and pass emissions:
1) Run an anti fouler with the rear o2 to get the rear o2 out of the stream of gases. This allows for the O2 sensor to heat up and be exposed to "cleaner" exhaust gases since it is choked from the stream
2) (recommended) Run 1 of the 2 Rear O2 routine "spoofs" where the expected rear O2 readings are hard coded into the rom so that the rear O2 Sensor no longer is asked for information. Keep the rear O2 sensor plugged in without and anti fouler just so that it can heat up.
3) same as #2 except remove the entire Rear o2 sensor and run a resistor (70k ohm 10watt - dex confirm) to complete the heater circuit.
This is it guys. If you are not in one of the three configurations you will fail emissions. I can easily make it so you can fit into one of the two latter categories with a simple ECU hack.
Ways to successfully run a test pipe and pass emissions:
1) Run an anti fouler with the rear o2 to get the rear o2 out of the stream of gases. This allows for the O2 sensor to heat up and be exposed to "cleaner" exhaust gases since it is choked from the stream
2) (recommended) Run 1 of the 2 Rear O2 routine "spoofs" where the expected rear O2 readings are hard coded into the rom so that the rear O2 Sensor no longer is asked for information. Keep the rear O2 sensor plugged in without and anti fouler just so that it can heat up.
3) same as #2 except remove the entire Rear o2 sensor and run a resistor (70k ohm 10watt - dex confirm) to complete the heater circuit.
This is it guys. If you are not in one of the three configurations you will fail emissions. I can easily make it so you can fit into one of the two latter categories with a simple ECU hack.
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ok guys i dont mean to get impatient but i am going to try to end this discussion.
Ways to successfully run a test pipe and pass emissions:
1) Run an anti fouler with the rear o2 to get the rear o2 out of the stream of gases. This allows for the O2 sensor to heat up and be exposed to "cleaner" exhaust gases since it is choked from the stream
2) (recommended) Run 1 of the 2 Rear O2 routine "spoofs" where the expected rear O2 readings are hard coded into the rom so that the rear O2 Sensor no longer is asked for information. Keep the rear O2 sensor plugged in without and anti fouler just so that it can heat up.
3) same as #2 except remove the entire Rear o2 sensor and run a resistor (70k ohm 10watt - dex confirm) to complete the heater circuit.
This is it guys. If you are not in one of the three configurations you will fail emissions. I can easily make it so you can fit into one of the two latter categories with a simple ECU hack.
Ways to successfully run a test pipe and pass emissions:
1) Run an anti fouler with the rear o2 to get the rear o2 out of the stream of gases. This allows for the O2 sensor to heat up and be exposed to "cleaner" exhaust gases since it is choked from the stream
2) (recommended) Run 1 of the 2 Rear O2 routine "spoofs" where the expected rear O2 readings are hard coded into the rom so that the rear O2 Sensor no longer is asked for information. Keep the rear O2 sensor plugged in without and anti fouler just so that it can heat up.
3) same as #2 except remove the entire Rear o2 sensor and run a resistor (70k ohm 10watt - dex confirm) to complete the heater circuit.
This is it guys. If you are not in one of the three configurations you will fail emissions. I can easily make it so you can fit into one of the two latter categories with a simple ECU hack.
On another note, after a long crappy day yesterday I got home to a present, it was my new Uego! I'm excited. Now just need to wait for Christmas for wifey to give me the matching boost guage and dual pod! Anyone wanna help the super n00b install next year?
Dec 4, 2008, 06:12 AM
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oh hai all. i has hot date last nite and it went well
not "dex" well, but well (you know what im talking about)
read: dex is a man-**** but who could blame him? the ladies cant resist the hair...
not "dex" well, but well (you know what im talking about)
read: dex is a man-**** but who could blame him? the ladies cant resist the hair...
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man am I having a hard time figuring out what boost gauge I want.
First I wanted to go with the AEM boost guage since it will match the Uego (I plan to put them in a dual pod on the steering colom) but I am really not sure I like L.E.D. sweeping light idea...I'm sure it will look "cool" but will it drive me nuts after awhile?
So I've checked out Lancershops offerings from the Defi Red Racer gauges, the Megan guages, hell even the autometer...I just want something simple and effective for tuning and monitoring purposes for my car.
Also since I might be installing myself, the easier to install, the better...anyone have any ideas or am I just crazy?
First I wanted to go with the AEM boost guage since it will match the Uego (I plan to put them in a dual pod on the steering colom) but I am really not sure I like L.E.D. sweeping light idea...I'm sure it will look "cool" but will it drive me nuts after awhile?
So I've checked out Lancershops offerings from the Defi Red Racer gauges, the Megan guages, hell even the autometer...I just want something simple and effective for tuning and monitoring purposes for my car.
Also since I might be installing myself, the easier to install, the better...anyone have any ideas or am I just crazy?
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Thank you for that complete info Turco. I just saved it so I have no further questions. Since I will be getting the test pipe for my exhaust soon I am going to run the 2nd sugestion.
On another note, after a long crappy day yesterday I got home to a present, it was my new Uego! I'm excited. Now just need to wait for Christmas for wifey to give me the matching boost guage and dual pod! Anyone wanna help the super n00b install next year?
On another note, after a long crappy day yesterday I got home to a present, it was my new Uego! I'm excited. Now just need to wait for Christmas for wifey to give me the matching boost guage and dual pod! Anyone wanna help the super n00b install next year?
yo dawg!! might have to stop by in the next day or two for the cam tool
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man am I having a hard time figuring out what boost gauge I want.
First I wanted to go with the AEM boost guage since it will match the Uego (I plan to put them in a dual pod on the steering colom) but I am really not sure I like L.E.D. sweeping light idea...I'm sure it will look "cool" but will it drive me nuts after awhile?
So I've checked out Lancershops offerings from the Defi Red Racer gauges, the Megan guages, hell even the autometer...I just want something simple and effective for tuning and monitoring purposes for my car.
Also since I might be installing myself, the easier to install, the better...anyone have any ideas or am I just crazy?
First I wanted to go with the AEM boost guage since it will match the Uego (I plan to put them in a dual pod on the steering colom) but I am really not sure I like L.E.D. sweeping light idea...I'm sure it will look "cool" but will it drive me nuts after awhile?
So I've checked out Lancershops offerings from the Defi Red Racer gauges, the Megan guages, hell even the autometer...I just want something simple and effective for tuning and monitoring purposes for my car.
Also since I might be installing myself, the easier to install, the better...anyone have any ideas or am I just crazy?
and matches the stock gauges quite nicely too.
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Dec 4, 2008, 06:46 AM
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man am I having a hard time figuring out what boost gauge I want.
First I wanted to go with the AEM boost guage since it will match the Uego (I plan to put them in a dual pod on the steering colom) but I am really not sure I like L.E.D. sweeping light idea...I'm sure it will look "cool" but will it drive me nuts after awhile?
So I've checked out Lancershops offerings from the Defi Red Racer gauges, the Megan guages, hell even the autometer...I just want something simple and effective for tuning and monitoring purposes for my car.
Also since I might be installing myself, the easier to install, the better...anyone have any ideas or am I just crazy?
First I wanted to go with the AEM boost guage since it will match the Uego (I plan to put them in a dual pod on the steering colom) but I am really not sure I like L.E.D. sweeping light idea...I'm sure it will look "cool" but will it drive me nuts after awhile?
So I've checked out Lancershops offerings from the Defi Red Racer gauges, the Megan guages, hell even the autometer...I just want something simple and effective for tuning and monitoring purposes for my car.
Also since I might be installing myself, the easier to install, the better...anyone have any ideas or am I just crazy?
I have a GReddy Boost Gauge and I love it. Matches well with the AEM and the interior.