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Old Jan 3, 2008, 10:31 AM
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turco if you get longer camber bolts you could probably get it down to like -3.5 in front, pretty aggressive for street, I think the stock camber bolts are good enough for like a -2 to -2.5 in the front
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by crazymikie
so here is the quote of the day for me....i was reading this article about fortune 500 companies that were involved with the *****. One of them is Siemens. I guess they tried to market a line named after Zyklon (the gas used in the holocaust). The author writes:

"Well, a few years ago, in an act of insensitive ****ery so colossal it could blot out the sun, Siemens tried to trademark the name "Zyklon" with the intent of marketing a series of products under the name. Including gas ovens."

Are people REALLY that obtuse?
I'd buy one. Is that wrong?
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MyEvoDream
turco if you get longer camber bolts you could probably get it down to like -3.5 in front, pretty aggressive for street, I think the stock camber bolts are good enough for like a -2 to -2.5 in the front
Really? usually camber bolts are limited to about -1.75 degrees. Plus I still think plates are more reliable.
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 10:39 AM
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camber bolts do not hold up as well. they have a tendency of slipping.

camber plates are good for a few reasons:
- they hold the alignment better
- you can have different settings for the street and track and adjust them reliably
- you can also adjust castor on some of them

the downside is cost and ride quality. removing the oem strut tops and going to metal plates is probably going to increase harshness a bit.
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by crazymikie
camber bolts do not hold up as well. they have a tendency of slipping.

camber plates are good for a few reasons:
- they hold the alignment better
- you can have different settings for the street and track and adjust them reliably
- you can also adjust castor on some of them

the downside is cost and ride quality. removing the oem strut tops and going to metal plates is probably going to increase harshness a bit.
I think it is a good substitute to coilovers though.
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 10:43 AM
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oh yah- once you change the springs, all bets are off as far as what the stock hardware can do for your alignment. i think with the swift springs, my rear camber was almost -2 degrees in the rear. camber plates would have solved the problem, but a set of coilovers seemed like a better idea.
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 10:44 AM
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Thats because you got a sick deal. I have a feeling suspension overhaul will be next winter.
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 10:45 AM
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Thats because you got a sick deal. I have a feeling suspension overhaul will be next winter.
if by sick you mean i was really drunk and was still able to use my credit card, i suppose so.
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MR Turco
I think it is a good substitute to coilovers though.
roger that..... +1
Our factory struts are underated imo.

Stock struts + adj camber plates + high quality springs =
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 10:51 AM
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I'll have my new wheels and coil-overs in the spring sometime so I am sure i am going to need them setup at some point
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hahahahaa....Cornwell Tool guy came by the shop and gave us good customers our holiday cheer gifts. I got an awesome CherryBox Productions: "Goo Gobbers" DVD ****. DP FTW!!!
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 11:10 AM
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It looks like the tein camber plates are the ones to go with. Fronts are only like $160. Not bad.
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 11:23 AM
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Maybe i will get them sooner then later.

http://lancershop.com/customer/produ...cat=105&page=1
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it takes 3-5 weeks, so i would order soon.
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 11:57 AM
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i might be buying wheels and tires which would kill me for money right now. Now the question is, if i buy wheels with advans should i sell them and buy RT-615s or keep them advans and run them until they need to be replaced?
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