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Old Jan 21, 2008, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by avengerhed
hahah, careful lobbing Innovate bombs around Mikie... he'll learn you about them real quick!


Edit: Oh gosh, he beat me to it....I tried to warn you!
i have an innovative bomb at home. it's an lc1- used only 3 times. i'll sell it cheap to anyone who wants it.....

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Old Jan 21, 2008, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by anjapower
I'm an Innovative fanboi so it will even the scales

Dave, you still on stock clutch? How many miles? Just about to turn 31k on the stocker with roughly the same mods as you. Wondering if it will be wise to go alky (torque) on the stocker
Oh gosh, it's on!

Anj, are you running cams? I'm at 58,500 (exactly, right now) and still on teh stock clutch. I can occasionally feel slippage if i have 4 ppl in the car and i have a less-than-gentle shift...but otherwise (knock wood) it's really been holding great.

I didn't go with cams, though, as I understand that to be the breaking point...the car's putting roughly 315 to the wheels with no other problems, though.

I know that once BREvo8 went cams+alky his clutch couldnt hold 3rd gear any more.
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Originally Posted by avengerhed
Oh gosh, it's on!

Anj, are you running cams? I'm at 58,500 (exactly, right now) and still on teh stock clutch. I can occasionally feel slippage if i have 4 ppl in the car and i have a less-than-gentle shift...but otherwise (knock wood) it's really been holding great.

I didn't go with cams, though, as I understand that to be the breaking point...the car's putting roughly 315 to the wheels with no other problems, though.

I know that once BREvo8 went cams+alky his clutch couldnt hold 3rd gear any more.
Yup, have had cams since ~8k on the clock. I'm at ~350 whp. That's not very good to hear

Although my car doesn't slip at all currently, no matter how much load I put on the clutch, aside from launching (which I never do anyway).
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Originally Posted by dexmix
1) All gauges have high latency. thats just how LCD displays work. fast latencies make it much harder to read a gauge. you don't tune from a gauge, and the gauge doesnt affect the logging latency.

2) i'm pretty sure most of us can handle wiring up a serial cable. most of us have electronics/engineering degrees.

so for $20 over the price of an LC-1 i get a gauge too.
I'm sure TTP would argue it because they are gungho about the Zeitronix.


Dumb accountants like me can't figure out how to do that wiring ****. Plus the Innovative guage has pretty colors
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wow, man...i forgot, you've also got the 10.5 hotside which i likely don't have.

now, my experience has come from people that launch the crap out of their car, something neither of us do, so maybe you'll be just fine....i'm not sure.

I'd love to get over 100k on my stock clutch....we shall see!
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Dumb accountants like me can't figure out how to do that wiring ****. Plus the Innovative guage has pretty colors
I love the Innovate gauge! if it was on the fly re programmable, i would already have one.
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Originally Posted by avengerhed
I'd love to get over 100k on my stock clutch....we shall see!
+1!
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Originally Posted by dexmix
I love the Innovate gauge! if it was on the fly re programmable, i would already have one.
Dexter! We gotta hang out this week man! Call me! Woot!

Exclamation Point!

Someone's happy to be leaving work soon!

Me!
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Originally Posted by anjapower


Dumb accountants like me can't figure out how to do that wiring ****. Plus the Innovative guage has pretty colors
how did you manage to install the lc1 correctly then?

their instructions were deplorable and inconsistent with the pictures....words say hook the diode up in parallel, picture shows series....UGH. getting the grounding correct also takes a PhD in electrical engineering.

it's on like donkey kong now
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how did you manage to install the lc1 correctly then?

their instructions were deplorable and inconsistent with the pictures....words say hook the diode up in parallel, picture shows series....UGH. getting the grounding correct also takes a PhD in electrical engineering.

it's on like donkey kong now
It was all plug and play after power and ground

One thing I didn't like was how the wires off the XD-16 were 2 inches long. I had to extend the wires. It is like a bird's nest behind the dash panels
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speaking of launching the crap out of my car. i need help with clutch adjustment. as of friday night, my clutch it is no longer disengaging properly when my foot is all the way down. i can't even get it into gear from a stand still at this point.

anyone wanna help me out with that?

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Originally Posted by dexmix
speaking of launching the crap out of my car. i need help with clutch adjustment. as of friday night, my clutch it is no longer disengaging properly when my foot is all the way down. i can't even get it into gear for a stand still at this point.

anyone wanna help me out with that?

sure man....you know you can swing over at any point....Turco's got the expertise, as well

maybe a lil' Rockband and clutch fixing soon?
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Originally Posted by dexmix
speaking of launching the crap out of my car. i need help with clutch adjustment. as of friday night, my clutch it is no longer disengaging properly when my foot is all the way down. i can't even get it into gear from a stand still at this point.

anyone wanna help me out with that?
supposedly the right way to do this is with all 4 wheels off the ground...

I hope you have small hands and are a contortionist. It is a b*tch to get under that pedal. First time I did it - car wouldn't start afterwards...the clutch switch got bent out of the way while tightening the lock nut. Not the surprise you want the next morning while going to work
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Originally Posted by dexmix
speaking of launching the crap out of my car. i need help with clutch adjustment. as of friday night, my clutch it is no longer disengaging properly when my foot is all the way down. i can't even get it into gear from a stand still at this point.

anyone wanna help me out with that?
Did this happen because you were launching the crap out of the car?
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Originally Posted by anjapower
Did this happen because you were launching the crap out of the car?
it's been happening gradually, but to put it simply... yes. i launched it without heating it up, which exacerbated the issue.

and the thing is, once its warmed up, the exedy does not need to be fully disengaged to shift, so i didn't notice it till i tried moving it getting it into gear to go home. i'm just worried i may have no room for adjustment.

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