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Old May 29, 2008, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MR Turco
yeah i would love to run leaner. In fact I WAS running leaner, not by choice, when i ran out of fuel pump. I didn't really make any more power though so no reason to be less safe.
subarus seem to respond to AFR changes a lot more than evos. not sure why....i still don't advocate throwing extra fuel in- it usually means you are doing something wrong when you have to use fuel to cool egts.
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Old May 29, 2008, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by crazymikie
12's are fine on 93 octane. i'm a fan of actually using the octane potential of fuel and minimizing pumping losses of the motor.

leaner is meaner

of course when i looked in my header while replacing the gasket, it was WHITE. like very WHITE. no black, no nothing, just white....

also, remember turco is still rocking the stock catback, so that kind of kills boost up top (i think dex can attest to this as well).
i run the same boost up top.

edit: I'm almost tempted to mess with my wastegate actuator... to bump up my boost, and see if it will hold boost better at red line.


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subarus seem to respond to AFR changes a lot more than evos. not sure why....i still don't advocate throwing extra fuel in- it usually means you are doing something wrong when you have to use fuel to cool egts.
and yes extra fuel is definitely a bandaid.

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Old May 29, 2008, 12:54 PM
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is the stock wastegate actuator even adjustable? (maybe thats why people get the forge units?)
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Old May 29, 2008, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dexmix
is the stock wastegate actuator even adjustable? (maybe thats why people get the forge units?)
yes the stocker is adjustable. People move to the forge because of the higher spring rate in the actuator. it is like 17 or 19 instead of the stock 14 or whatever it is.
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Old May 29, 2008, 12:58 PM
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higher spring pressures are overrated- my turbo holds like 4x the base spring pressure with a hybrid MBC and 3 port solenoid setup. you can also use a restrictor pill if you need to.
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Old May 29, 2008, 01:01 PM
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Dex you need to get the GM 3 PORT!!!! Mike remind me to ask steve how much he wants for his, i may just buy it so i can force one of these crazyfaces to install it.
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Old May 29, 2008, 01:02 PM
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Old May 29, 2008, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MR Turco
Dex you need to get the GM 3 PORT!!!! Mike remind me to ask steve how much he wants for his, i may just buy it so i can force one of these crazyfaces to install it.
i know but i really really like how my boost works now. its essentially stock. plus a couple psi from the restrictor, and a bit more from the down pipe. if i can get a couple more #'s of preload to up my boost across the board (especially up top) i will be happy.
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Originally Posted by crazymikie
higher spring pressures are overrated- my turbo holds like 4x the base spring pressure with a hybrid MBC and 3 port solenoid setup. you can also use a restrictor pill if you need to.

The lower the wastegate spring pressure is from your desired boost level the more likely it will taper

the stock wastegate is ok, but you run into a lot of taper at high boost. I used to run stock turbo at 32 spike 28-30 through some of the rpm band and then taper to 23ish
Some stockers I have seen taper to 17-19 from 28 or so
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you guys running low boost dont have to worry as much
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Originally Posted by 1slowevo
you guys running low boost dont have to worry as much
i would be happy with 21-22 at redline... at least until i swap out turbos.
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Old May 29, 2008, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dexmix
i would be happy with 21-22 at redline... at least until i swap out turbos.
that is going to be tough on the stock turbo.
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Originally Posted by 1slowevo
The lower the wastegate spring pressure is from your desired boost level the more likely it will taper

the stock wastegate is ok, but you run into a lot of taper at high boost. I used to run stock turbo at 32 spike 28-30 through some of the rpm band and then taper to 23ish
Some stockers I have seen taper to 17-19 from 28 or so
not only does it help with taper, but more preload is supposed to help spool as well.



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fixed

don't even start... i was looking at 35R kits last night.
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Originally Posted by dexmix
i would be happy with 21-22 at redline... at least until i swap out turbos next week, then I want 30psi.
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Originally Posted by dexmix
but more preload is supposed to help spool as well.
Really? <- serious question.
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