Originally Posted by kf6ytc
yep, but you won't get that response from most people on evom because everyone here is in bed with buschur/ams and they won't admit the product good for obvious reasons
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Originally Posted by KOEvo
Which Ebay intercooler? There are so many different units available. Is it one of the two i linked? The XS Power or the JDMMotor?
So there are no XS Power intercoolers for sale anyway? Man that sucks, it seems to be the most popular... |
Originally Posted by EVIL_EVO_VIII
XS Power
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Originally Posted by KOEvo
Too bad there are rarely any on Ebay. Can you link me to an old auction so i can see what to keep my eye out for?
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Originally Posted by Rnm
I'm very certain the one that JDMMotorz sells is the same unit as the XSPower core.
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If someone can give some hard facts.. fin style, fin density, presure drop, ... I would consider buying one.
FACTS PLEASE!!!!! |
Originally Posted by Cajun Power
If someone can give some hard facts.. fin style, fin density, presure drop, ... I would consider buying one.
FACTS PLEASE!!!!! |
Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
Are there any facts for ANY of the intercoolers on the market?
just do your own research or read the dsmtuners thread. According to "evo tuners" the evo tuning market just opened up with new "innovative" products, yet most 'high end' aftermarket items are just simple machined pieces or universal general electric components with a bazillion dollars in markup. |
FWIW, I trapped 116mph with the mods in my sig and the XS Power Evo specific fmic. I only got 3 runs that night and with each pass I was seeing improvement with more tuning. I haven't been back to the track since. Temps were in the mid 70's so I'm hoping for an improvement later this fall.
I do not see any of these XS Power fmic's on ebay right now either. They are very similiar or possibly exactly the same as this http://cgi.ebay.com/THS-Mitsubishi-E...QQcmdZViewItem or the JDMmotor fmic's for the Evo. My stock fmic had 50k miles on it when I replaced it. Bugs, rocks, and other debris had taken their toll so it was in bad shape. I decided to pick up one of these XS Power fmic's since mine was in need of replacement as well as I wanted the new licp it came with. It wasn't mentioned in the ad I bought mine from but it shipped with a uicp also that I later cut up and used for an elbow to mount my meth nozzle. After swapping on the new fmic(this is well before I added the SMC kit so this was on 93oct), I noticed my car was much less knock prone. I could run a couple more degrees timing advance without any signs of knock. Where with the stock fmic I was seeing counts of knock with less timing advance. These tests were done under very similiar conditions btw. Same stretch of road, temps etc. Also this was the only change made to the car mod wise at the time. Unfornutely thats the only improvement I can show you. I've never dynoed the car or made any before and after 1/4 runs. So like I said, take it FWIW. You may see different results if your stock fmic is in better shape than what mine was. I was happy with the results, especially for the price I paid. http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/5442/evokh7.jpg |
Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
I think the drop in pressure is normal for any intercooler. The drop in boost is due to restriction (much like there is a drop in voltage when resistance is encountered in electrical circuits). A larger FMIC will have a higher resistance to flow compared to the stocker, simply because there is more internal surface area to travel against. You will see this pressure drop (shouldn't be more than 1-2 psi) on all large cores (AMS, Buschur, etc.) not just the ebay ones.
Nisei's Competition Intercooler claims they use < .5 lbs of pressure it's all about design and how much pressure you lose accross a intercooler... either ways as i remember reading on this forum a review on the ebay intercooler the guy said he lost over 2 lbs of pressure and it was the reason i was turned away from... he still said his buttdyno seemed like he gained nice power. and most guys havent had any big issues and there is no doubt for the money is awesome... but for me that 2+ lbs of pressure lost is just TOO much |
Does anyone actually have this one off ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/jdm-E...33747195QQrdZ1 any pressure drop/does it fit with stock intercooler pipes |
Originally Posted by KOEvo
Too bad there are rarely any on Ebay. Can you link me to an old auction so i can see what to keep my eye out for?
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Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
How many fins are there (per length) in each core? I doubt the AMS core is the same.
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https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...38#post3534538
^^^^ This is a VERY good job of posting how an intercooler effected his car. Good result from a change with no tuning. It clearly shows an increase in air density. That is what the IC is supposed to do and it does it. I am soooooo tempted to order one right now! THAT IS A --- Turbo XS intercooler!!!! $600'ish* NOT the ebay XS Engineering IC!!! $150'ish* Now, if we could get someone to log the same kind of data on the stock vs. the ebay IC we could put this to rest. *thx razorlab for pointing that out. |
Originally Posted by Cajun Power
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...38#post3534538
^^^^ Required reading to post in here... Good result from a change with no tuning. It clearly shows an increase in air density. That is what the IC is supposed to do and it does it. I am soooooo tempted to order one right now! |
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