This is a full wideband kit with everything you need to install it Software, o2 sensor, and all necessary cables. You are able to data log with this kit w/ no additonal purchases besides your laptop. The kit will come with 2 models:
1 The bundle with all the main parts
2 The bundle plus LCD display which will display, egt, boost, lambda, and a/f(other parts may need to be purchased to get some of these displays)

Now on to pricing: kit 1: 279 and kit 2: 399

if we can get 10-19 ppl(estimate based on past group buys): kit 1: 250 and kit 2: 360
if we can get 20 ppl: kit 1: 240 and kit 2: 350
20+ we maybe able to get even more off... i need to compile a list of those interested before we can get final pricing set up. And dont add you name to the list if you are not absolutely sure about this we dont need ppl backing out at the last min. Thanks guys.

their website is www.zeitronix.com if you need more information.

1. 03rallylancer

 

hi my names pete. im completely new to engine tuning i may be interested as i have just finished up my suspension, so i need to do some engine. would u mind explaining it.. ill search now, but ive heard gains from this so im inclined its worth it.

 

The zeitronix is a kick-butt piece of equipment. A wideband O2 sensor is VITAL if you plan to do your own fuel management piggyback tuning (eManage, SAFC-II, etc.) whether NA or turbo. You can blow your motor if you go too far with either type of tuning. Install only takes a few minutes and you use the same wires you did to install your piggyback in the first place (power, ground, RPM, throttle). I would recommend buying the sensor bung and that you have it welded into your downpipe. I don't know where it would go on the stock DP exactly, but I mounted mine directly below the intake manifold, straight up and down on my custom pipe. I ziptied the REALLY long senor wire to one of the AC hardlines and threaded the communication cable through the grommet in the firewall.

You can leave these in! They're stock equipment on some VWs and other european cars and IIRC have a lifespan of about 100K miles on unleaded gas. The replacement price through Zeitronix is prett good, too (I've heard rumors that when VW service centers have them in they're cheaper, but when I've called they've been backordered and they give priority to customers' cars in the service bay or on call)

The display is easy to read on a laptop (since I tune the eM with the laptop no need to get the screen, too but I can see how that would be handy). You can either get the graphs separate, on top of each other (I usually rum RPM and AFR on the same graph and have throttle separate) OR you can have a numeric readout (helpful when there's glare or if you need to get the info at a glance- not like when you're driving or anything though )

Awesome piece. I'm not gonna sit here and try to sell them to you guys, because I don't have any incentives but if you have some end-user type questions, I'll try to anser them.

Oh last thing, I thought I was having a problem with the unit (laptop was having a spaz, it turns out) and when I emailed them it took about 16 hours to get a response on a weekend. Not too bad, really.

 

I really do not look forward to welding this into the downpipe. Is it ok to install it where the 2nd o2 is?

 

My gut reaction everytime someone says that: pay to play

I'm not a fan of removing either O2 sensor, even if the 2nd O2 has a MIL eliminator on it and it's not really doing anything. Removing the sensor is a sure way to throw a CEL. The problem is what if you get a REAL CEL but you think it's just for the sensor? You're running around with crappy gas mileage and the freaking piggyback won't make any changes and you think the light on your dash, telling you there's a problem, is just for the sensor. I mean, you're playing around with your ECU, cutting wires and changing the amount of fuel that's going into the engine. I can't tell you how many CELs I've had. But it's your dime and if you want to remove the 2nd O2 sensor, I don't think it's any different than having it read the same as the first O2 (which is why you get the CEL in the first place). But then I don't know because I didn't remove the sensor


The bungs are like $9 from Zeitronix and having it welded in can't possibly be that expensive or time consuming.

 

i will take the second package with the screen. i would like to get the egt reading too, but I believe it is an extra $100. i am only interested if we can get the group buy rate, otherwise I will hold off to pay full price. free shipping?

 

this is a must for anyone who wants to start tuning their car on their own. w/o the screen it is the cheapest wideband on the market. the add ons for egt and boost readings are about $160 for both I think, and the boost gauge is the same one aem uses, or the most accurate boost gauge available. the cheapest gauges are nearly that much and less accurate. and you would pay well over $160 for equal quality gauges.

 

I didn't know replacing our stock o2 with a wideband will throw a cel???

Just wanted to know if it is possible ........ anyway, so it means I would have to get a header before installing all of this. I don't want to go and do the same job at the muffler shop twice.

I'm interested but still have to make up my mind if o2 or new clutch. It all depends how many people will go for it and what will be the final price.

 

If you just remove the O2 sensor, yes, you'll get a CEL. I've heard it's possible to have a WBO2 in the first cat bung and then wire the ECU into the WB sensor, but I'm not sure how well that works or if it will effect the performance of the Zeitronix. you cannot hook a WB sensor up to the harness on the first O2 sensor- the WB harness is too big so you have to figure something out.

 

Not that I condone buying another part but there is another option out there to get a highflow cat with an extra O2 bung and putting the New sensor in there.

I know that's extra but if you want plug and play that is probably the best way to go.

WADAD

 

This could take months to get off the ground but I'll add my name tentatively to the list if we get enough people together?

Has someone started a list yet?

WADAD

 

Naperville just to let you know... in the eclipse gb they gave a discount on the egt harnesses too... but like i said we need at least a few people before i send them a list to get definate pricing. I am also putting this up on a few other sites mainly local to try and get some more ppl on the list sooner. Also i doubt there will be free shipping but their shipping is pretty well priced.

List:
1. 03RallyLancer
2. NapervilleEvo (if we get group price)
3. Wad (if we get group price)

only 7 more.

Thanks for the info alchemist

 

i am intersted but i am ignorant, if a guru or someone with knowledge on "wideband" in general would like to pm me a general synopsis on what this is and what it does i would appreciate it.

 

idk im kinda sketchy on this, my car is stock do i really need it?

 

A wideband is a o2 sensor that has a greater range then your stock o2 sensor. It gives you your a/f so that you can tune your car, wether you going n/a or FI if you are tuning your car yourself you definately need this product.