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FS. TME turbo/Meth Kit.
Dec 24, 2006 | 04:51 PM
#16
Well I mean I was in your shoes for a while, on the stock turbo debating which turbo I could choose and be happy with it on the street and on the track. My criteria were that on the street I would gain a lot of hp and tq, to me a turbo should help both not just one dramatically more than the other (meaning I didn't want to lose usable powerband, while I didnt want a turbo that was choked off even at full bore on race gas for my build), needed to be fun on the street and good on the road course.
I went from making something like 337 325 on stock turbo 2.0 to 385 360 on 3076 and 2.3 pump gas at 2 psi less - 20psi. I make 22psi on the street in 3rd gear at 3600 , 3800 in 2nd, 4000 in 1st, 3500 in fourth and at about 3600 in 5th. At 30 psi on my 2.3 the turbo begins to taper at about 6500 , tapering to 26 psi by 8300 rpms. On the dyno it shows full tq at 4800 rpms which is 480 ft lbs, I make 350 ft lbs of tq from 4-7.5k, it's not peaky it just hits very very hard which makes it very fun to drive I feel, being that it peaks early.
With this turbo you give up significant top end to a 35R but gain a lot of tq, compaired to any stock turbo your better in almost all regards except those below say 3500 rpms. Compaired to a 50 trim you have peak and overall tq, spoolup, and response, but lose peak hp more so in pump gas than race gas form. On a fully built car with this setup (good cams, intake manifold, standalone, I don't see why mid 500's wouldnt be possible, I want a set of big cams, IM, and to go to a AEM or blow through setup but dont have the cash, somebody will prove it soon i hope haha.
There is no right choice, just one that has the compromises that fit you best
Scorke
I went from making something like 337 325 on stock turbo 2.0 to 385 360 on 3076 and 2.3 pump gas at 2 psi less - 20psi. I make 22psi on the street in 3rd gear at 3600 , 3800 in 2nd, 4000 in 1st, 3500 in fourth and at about 3600 in 5th. At 30 psi on my 2.3 the turbo begins to taper at about 6500 , tapering to 26 psi by 8300 rpms. On the dyno it shows full tq at 4800 rpms which is 480 ft lbs, I make 350 ft lbs of tq from 4-7.5k, it's not peaky it just hits very very hard which makes it very fun to drive I feel, being that it peaks early.
With this turbo you give up significant top end to a 35R but gain a lot of tq, compaired to any stock turbo your better in almost all regards except those below say 3500 rpms. Compaired to a 50 trim you have peak and overall tq, spoolup, and response, but lose peak hp more so in pump gas than race gas form. On a fully built car with this setup (good cams, intake manifold, standalone, I don't see why mid 500's wouldnt be possible, I want a set of big cams, IM, and to go to a AEM or blow through setup but dont have the cash, somebody will prove it soon i hope haha.
There is no right choice, just one that has the compromises that fit you best
Scorke
Dec 24, 2006 | 06:25 PM
#20
Dec 24, 2006 | 06:44 PM
#21
have you looked at the FP Evo Green?? seems to be a natural born killer from what another member has reviewed of it. some vendors have done some testing and it seems to be doing quite nicely in the hp and tq area. very comparable to the 50 trim as far as flow numbers are.
oh i see you put up your lights and cleaned up a bit in the park...
oh i see you put up your lights and cleaned up a bit in the park...
Dec 24, 2006 | 07:45 PM
#23
yeah, under those circumstances i agree. however, before my post was deleted in another thread, this may be the "savior'' for us guys in Cali. that DONT HAVE 93 OCT AT THE PUMP. we have to go get the darned stuff from somewhere. we also have to deal with gettting pulled over in the larger cities such as San Diego, Los Angeles, etc. to be inspected because of "profiling".
it also seems to give quite the stocklike spool for the street. we all dont pull to 8k going from block to block or light to light. well, at least i dont...haaahahha!!
i will agree with you Scorke that it does get slaughtered on race gas, but for the increase in boost on some race gas with the FPEG turbo, i think it just may be worth the money. a race car is a different application...
here is the link to the FP website and what they have to say about it...check the flow numbers..
http://linux.forcedperformance.net/m...e=Lancer_Turbo
it also seems to give quite the stocklike spool for the street. we all dont pull to 8k going from block to block or light to light. well, at least i dont...haaahahha!!
i will agree with you Scorke that it does get slaughtered on race gas, but for the increase in boost on some race gas with the FPEG turbo, i think it just may be worth the money. a race car is a different application...
here is the link to the FP website and what they have to say about it...check the flow numbers..
http://linux.forcedperformance.net/m...e=Lancer_Turbo
Dec 24, 2006 | 07:46 PM
#24
The 69mm 5blade CNC machined compressor wheel has a flow rating of 47lb/min and pressure ratio capability beyond 3.7:1 which allows for over 30psi boost pressure and RPM range beyond 8krpm.
Dec 24, 2006 | 07:49 PM
#25
Dude, a stock turbo can run to 10k, max rpm and turbo matchup are irrelevant, the thing that matters is boost at that RPM. Look at the compressor map if they have one for the Green and grab one for the 3076 I can say almost without doubt that a 3076 will flow a lot more air up top (high revs high boost) than that turbo.
Stock turbos can peak over 30, but they all taper pretty bad, a wastegate actuator and the green's modifications help but it still tapers.
Scorke
Stock turbos can peak over 30, but they all taper pretty bad, a wastegate actuator and the green's modifications help but it still tapers.
Scorke
Dec 24, 2006 | 10:44 PM
#28
Yes you can, with my kit I can run the stock heatshield, I even ran the stock airbox before switching to a different IC and different IC piping setup, the only thing you can see from above is a tiny portion of the tial 38mm peeping out of the side.
Scorke
Scorke
