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Aug 10, 2009, 07:19 PM
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thanks for everyine who has responded, this is something that could have been handled differently, but sadly was not. sekula, i'd pay you to fix this guy's car if he weren't being such a douche, one 6 may be a good shop, maybe they installed it 100% correctly, filled it with the correct fluid, bled and adjusted everything correctly, and it's my fault for not beating the **** out of the one i pulled it from to make it grind. the car i got the parts from was BONE STOCK.
i doubt your car is. maybe you cheaped out on the clutch, and got one with higher spring pressure instead of better material, maybe the cluch just needs bled. there are a lot of reasond that the trans could grind, a linkage problem possibly because its only grinding going into the forward gears. i'd feel better if you had a second oppinion from a shop that specialized in evo's, not civics and teg's. an oppinion from an uninvolved third party other than the shop that put it in, i'd be more willing to help you out more. you can just take the hit, but i'm not saying you have to. i've been trying to help you out since day 1, and i resent the fact that you represent me as having any other position on the matter.
I wish i lived in that area, i'd check out the shop, make sure it actually does have a grind, buy the parts, and rebuild it myself. i guess i'm spoiled because i have never payed for labor. if this you would just get your hands dirty, you could have taken your trans out, put a new syncro on first, replaced all the wear parts, and done it all for under 300 with fluids. oh well, my thing is, i worked at a tuner shop for years. if a boosted, modded car comes into the shop for repairs, and it's fixed while the owner is 2 hours away, that car gets the TEST DRIVE!!! you know what i mean. and the underpaid, overworked grease monkey who did the work, and can only dream of owning such a car, and will 99% of the time beat the **** out of the car when they TEST DRIVE it. oh well, such is life. i'm not saying that's what actually happened, but all i'm saying is, i sold you what i believed to be a good trans.
not puttin down the shop, i respect the hell out of anyone who has tried to make it working on cars. i've done it for 12 years proffessionally, and certified, and it's not easy. one thing is though, it's a 2 hour job to swap a civic tranny, a 6 hour job to swap an evo tranny. and thats if your good. to do it when you are a honda specialist is like a parts changer trying to blueprint a race motor. it can happen, but not likely, and not well. its the kind of job where the honda tech goes home with a pocket full of evo bolts. but it's just mommy and daddy's money anyways for this guy, and he's mad cuz he couldn't do the job himself.
i doubt your car is. maybe you cheaped out on the clutch, and got one with higher spring pressure instead of better material, maybe the cluch just needs bled. there are a lot of reasond that the trans could grind, a linkage problem possibly because its only grinding going into the forward gears. i'd feel better if you had a second oppinion from a shop that specialized in evo's, not civics and teg's. an oppinion from an uninvolved third party other than the shop that put it in, i'd be more willing to help you out more. you can just take the hit, but i'm not saying you have to. i've been trying to help you out since day 1, and i resent the fact that you represent me as having any other position on the matter.
I wish i lived in that area, i'd check out the shop, make sure it actually does have a grind, buy the parts, and rebuild it myself. i guess i'm spoiled because i have never payed for labor. if this you would just get your hands dirty, you could have taken your trans out, put a new syncro on first, replaced all the wear parts, and done it all for under 300 with fluids. oh well, my thing is, i worked at a tuner shop for years. if a boosted, modded car comes into the shop for repairs, and it's fixed while the owner is 2 hours away, that car gets the TEST DRIVE!!! you know what i mean. and the underpaid, overworked grease monkey who did the work, and can only dream of owning such a car, and will 99% of the time beat the **** out of the car when they TEST DRIVE it. oh well, such is life. i'm not saying that's what actually happened, but all i'm saying is, i sold you what i believed to be a good trans.
not puttin down the shop, i respect the hell out of anyone who has tried to make it working on cars. i've done it for 12 years proffessionally, and certified, and it's not easy. one thing is though, it's a 2 hour job to swap a civic tranny, a 6 hour job to swap an evo tranny. and thats if your good. to do it when you are a honda specialist is like a parts changer trying to blueprint a race motor. it can happen, but not likely, and not well. its the kind of job where the honda tech goes home with a pocket full of evo bolts. but it's just mommy and daddy's money anyways for this guy, and he's mad cuz he couldn't do the job himself.
Aug 11, 2009, 08:22 AM
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+1 on that.. have boughten from "supposedly" the best on this site and findout in the end I got really screwed by them.. So thats not the best bet always either..
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And to OP If your sending out broken parts FIX them to the full not offering a synchro.. The tranny you sold to him is junk and your 100% responsible to fix it or refund him.. Especially if a shop installed it then you know for a fact that he didnt mess it up installing it himself.. ONLY right clear your name of this mess do whats right.. refund him full money get your tranny back get it fixed and sell it truthfully..
Aug 12, 2009, 10:23 AM
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thanks for everyine who has responded, this is something that could have been handled differently, but sadly was not. sekula, i'd pay you to fix this guy's car if he weren't being such a douche, one 6 may be a good shop, maybe they installed it 100% correctly, filled it with the correct fluid, bled and adjusted everything correctly, and it's my fault for not beating the **** out of the one i pulled it from to make it grind. the car i got the parts from was BONE STOCK.
i doubt your car is. maybe you cheaped out on the clutch, and got one with higher spring pressure instead of better material, maybe the cluch just needs bled. there are a lot of reasond that the trans could grind, a linkage problem possibly because its only grinding going into the forward gears. i'd feel better if you had a second oppinion from a shop that specialized in evo's, not civics and teg's. an oppinion from an uninvolved third party other than the shop that put it in, i'd be more willing to help you out more. you can just take the hit, but i'm not saying you have to. i've been trying to help you out since day 1, and i resent the fact that you represent me as having any other position on the matter.
I wish i lived in that area, i'd check out the shop, make sure it actually does have a grind, buy the parts, and rebuild it myself. i guess i'm spoiled because i have never payed for labor. if this you would just get your hands dirty, you could have taken your trans out, put a new syncro on first, replaced all the wear parts, and done it all for under 300 with fluids. oh well, my thing is, i worked at a tuner shop for years. if a boosted, modded car comes into the shop for repairs, and it's fixed while the owner is 2 hours away, that car gets the TEST DRIVE!!! you know what i mean. and the underpaid, overworked grease monkey who did the work, and can only dream of owning such a car, and will 99% of the time beat the **** out of the car when they TEST DRIVE it. oh well, such is life. i'm not saying that's what actually happened, but all i'm saying is, i sold you what i believed to be a good trans.
not puttin down the shop, i respect the hell out of anyone who has tried to make it working on cars. i've done it for 12 years proffessionally, and certified, and it's not easy. one thing is though, it's a 2 hour job to swap a civic tranny, a 6 hour job to swap an evo tranny. and thats if your good. to do it when you are a honda specialist is like a parts changer trying to blueprint a race motor. it can happen, but not likely, and not well. its the kind of job where the honda tech goes home with a pocket full of evo bolts. .
i doubt your car is. maybe you cheaped out on the clutch, and got one with higher spring pressure instead of better material, maybe the cluch just needs bled. there are a lot of reasond that the trans could grind, a linkage problem possibly because its only grinding going into the forward gears. i'd feel better if you had a second oppinion from a shop that specialized in evo's, not civics and teg's. an oppinion from an uninvolved third party other than the shop that put it in, i'd be more willing to help you out more. you can just take the hit, but i'm not saying you have to. i've been trying to help you out since day 1, and i resent the fact that you represent me as having any other position on the matter.
I wish i lived in that area, i'd check out the shop, make sure it actually does have a grind, buy the parts, and rebuild it myself. i guess i'm spoiled because i have never payed for labor. if this you would just get your hands dirty, you could have taken your trans out, put a new syncro on first, replaced all the wear parts, and done it all for under 300 with fluids. oh well, my thing is, i worked at a tuner shop for years. if a boosted, modded car comes into the shop for repairs, and it's fixed while the owner is 2 hours away, that car gets the TEST DRIVE!!! you know what i mean. and the underpaid, overworked grease monkey who did the work, and can only dream of owning such a car, and will 99% of the time beat the **** out of the car when they TEST DRIVE it. oh well, such is life. i'm not saying that's what actually happened, but all i'm saying is, i sold you what i believed to be a good trans.
not puttin down the shop, i respect the hell out of anyone who has tried to make it working on cars. i've done it for 12 years proffessionally, and certified, and it's not easy. one thing is though, it's a 2 hour job to swap a civic tranny, a 6 hour job to swap an evo tranny. and thats if your good. to do it when you are a honda specialist is like a parts changer trying to blueprint a race motor. it can happen, but not likely, and not well. its the kind of job where the honda tech goes home with a pocket full of evo bolts. .
Ok, you insult me for not installing it myself, and you speculate that the job was not done correctly. You speculate on the parts used without investigating. You speculate that I am some kid spending mom and dad's money when you don’t know me.
The facts are that I am a 32 year old man who trusted you to deliver the part that you advertised, you failed to do so. I invested thousands of dollars to correct a problem my car was having, based on your part, I will have to do so again.
Instead of negotiating on some sort of compromise to correct the situation you have decided to blame others (installation, setup, and driving style), and throw out baseless insults. Finally I gave you an opportunity to put a value on your reputation $800 you have clearly stated that your reputation is not worth that much, on that point we can agree.
“but it's just mommy and daddy's money anyways for this guy, and he's mad cuz he couldn't do the job himself”
This clearly shows your opinion of the market you have decided to serve, anyone who trusts someone who shows such blatant disrespect for members of the Evo community deserves what they get from you!
Aug 12, 2009, 10:26 AM
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And to OP If your sending out broken parts FIX them to the full not offering a synchro.. The tranny you sold to him is junk and your 100% responsible to fix it or refund him.. Especially if a shop installed it then you know for a fact that he didnt mess it up installing it himself.. ONLY right clear your name of this mess do whats right.. refund him full money get your tranny back get it fixed and sell it truthfully..
The sad part of this is that I would be out over $1,000 ether way
Aug 12, 2009, 10:39 AM
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Dude, i've been trying to reach a compromise the whole time, but me sending you 800 isn't a compromise, it's **** rape. I've offered to fix this several ways, but you insist on me sending you cash and letting you keep the tranny. It's one or the other, not both. I'm trying to help you out, but your not making it easy.
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Thats also the fifth or sixth time you've referred to "the evo community" where is this? Is it a small town somewhere? A housing development? Gated community? I'd like to visit this place some time. For all my speculations, you havn't corrected them. You took your evo to a honda shop, you won't tell me what mods are done to your car, and you havn't tried to fix the problem by adjustment, bleeding, flushing, clutch change... You just insist on me sending you a rediculous amount of money. Not gonna happen.
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And to OP If your sending out broken parts FIX them to the full not offering a synchro.. The tranny you sold to him is junk and your 100% responsible to fix it or refund him.. Especially if a shop installed it then you know for a fact that he didnt mess it up installing it himself.. ONLY right clear your name of this mess do whats right.. refund him full money get your tranny back get it fixed and sell it truthfully..
thats just outrageous.
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I'd be less concerned with improper installation if he had picked up a cheap set of tools and a repair manual and did it himself than him taking his evo to a honda shop 2 hours away.
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thanks for everyine who has responded, this is something that could have been handled differently, but sadly was not. sekula, i'd pay you to fix this guy's car if he weren't being such a douche, one 6 may be a good shop, maybe they installed it 100% correctly, filled it with the correct fluid, bled and adjusted everything correctly, and it's my fault for not beating the **** out of the one i pulled it from to make it grind. the car i got the parts from was BONE STOCK.