Where to go to lower the car?
Dec 18, 2009 | 09:00 PM
#32
Some of th posts in this thread are so funny, a coilover being more comfortable than a shock/spring? Hahahahahah. Maybe if your comparing a set of useless springs ( tein, eibach sportline etc) to a set of good quality coilovers (KW, AST etc)
I highly doubt you will blow your shocks within 2 years by lowering your car with proper lowering springs. Anything more 1.2" drop is useless and pointless, ideally a drop should be in the 0.5-1.2" depending on the vehicle etc.
Anyone with coilovers that wants them to last should remove them for winter, leaving them on through winter is not smart.
Alot of the posts in here should be taken with a grain of salt, most are likely people reposting what someone else has said or what they heard from there friend.
Fact: yes installing lowering springs will decrease the life span of the shocks. It isn't going to happen overnight and unless Mitsubishi designed the suspension to ride with less than an inch of travel at stock height then your going to get probably 1-2 years lowered on springs atleast. This is assuming your using a quality spring and have a proper alignment done.
I highly doubt you will blow your shocks within 2 years by lowering your car with proper lowering springs. Anything more 1.2" drop is useless and pointless, ideally a drop should be in the 0.5-1.2" depending on the vehicle etc.
Anyone with coilovers that wants them to last should remove them for winter, leaving them on through winter is not smart.
Alot of the posts in here should be taken with a grain of salt, most are likely people reposting what someone else has said or what they heard from there friend.
Fact: yes installing lowering springs will decrease the life span of the shocks. It isn't going to happen overnight and unless Mitsubishi designed the suspension to ride with less than an inch of travel at stock height then your going to get probably 1-2 years lowered on springs atleast. This is assuming your using a quality spring and have a proper alignment done.
Many guys have blown there oem shocks with ease in a short time span. Probably due to these "useless springs" Or mitsubishi is retarded in most cases when it comes to engineering so it dosn't surprise me.
I've read through many nissan forums, mazda forums ect. guys who did run their coilovers in the winter took care of them and have gotten quite a bit of use from them.
"Alot of the posts in here should be taken with a grain of salt, most are likely people reposting what someone else has said or what they heard from there friend."
Dec 19, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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Majority of the members buy these "useless springs" so I can understand if someone has said coilover ride quality will be better.
Many guys have blown there oem shocks with ease in a short time span. Probably due to these "useless springs" Or mitsubishi is retarded in most cases when it comes to engineering so it dosn't surprise me.
I've read through many nissan forums, mazda forums ect. guys who did run their coilovers in the winter took care of them and have gotten quite a bit of use from them.
this could be said the same for your post since you keep talking about kw's and good springs (swift maybe) when yet they aren't even offered for our cars. We dont get aftermarket shocks, we have very limited choice for coils and I doubt anyone in the right mind would drop what $3000 on high end coils even if they were offered for our cars.
Many guys have blown there oem shocks with ease in a short time span. Probably due to these "useless springs" Or mitsubishi is retarded in most cases when it comes to engineering so it dosn't surprise me.
I've read through many nissan forums, mazda forums ect. guys who did run their coilovers in the winter took care of them and have gotten quite a bit of use from them.
this could be said the same for your post since you keep talking about kw's and good springs (swift maybe) when yet they aren't even offered for our cars. We dont get aftermarket shocks, we have very limited choice for coils and I doubt anyone in the right mind would drop what $3000 on high end coils even if they were offered for our cars.
I agree there is a strong lack of products available for the Lancer, but the easiest way to change that is for the owners to inquire with the manufacturers about making products. Contact KYB and Koni and try and get them to work on a fitment of there AGX, Sport or FSD shocks for your cars. Send Swift an email and show interest in them doing R&D for a set of springs for your car. As it sits I think the Eibach Pro-Kit is the only set of springs I would recommend for your cars. KYB GR-2's are available and are very inexpensive and are valved slightly different than the stockers but not much.
Regarding coilovers, if you have the time and are willing to put in the effort you can maintain them but the salt/snow/dirt just isn't good for them. If you can spend a day each week cleaning them and oil spraying them then sure run them through the winter.
In the end the owners either need to show interest to the manufacturers or stay stock if good options don't exist for the car.
Dec 19, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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If you get a chance to call KYB (OEM manufacturer) the GTS spec is different than the ES set up. Going beyond .75 inch will will greatly result shortened life. The Tech I spoke with that was associated with the project was not thrilled with Mitsubishi's specification for the Lancer 
I asked him to put it into context for me since Suspension isnt my greatest pool of knowledge, and he said, he has seen and worked on alot of OEM specs, but this one just will not be tolerant of dropping.
I asked him to put it into context for me since Suspension isnt my greatest pool of knowledge, and he said, he has seen and worked on alot of OEM specs, but this one just will not be tolerant of dropping. .... I highly doubt you will blow your shocks within 2 years by lowering your car with proper lowering springs. Anything more 1.2" drop is useless and pointless, ideally a drop should be in the 0.5-1.2" depending on the vehicle etc.
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Fact: yes installing lowering springs will decrease the life span of the shocks. It isn't going to happen overnight and unless Mitsubishi designed the suspension to ride with less than an inch of travel at stock height then your going to get probably 1-2 years lowered on springs atleast. This is assuming your using a quality spring and have a proper alignment done.
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Fact: yes installing lowering springs will decrease the life span of the shocks. It isn't going to happen overnight and unless Mitsubishi designed the suspension to ride with less than an inch of travel at stock height then your going to get probably 1-2 years lowered on springs atleast. This is assuming your using a quality spring and have a proper alignment done.
Dec 19, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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So it was Mitsubishi in house that made the decision. From what I could gather, not confirmed, it was to correct for the GTS air damn kit being too low. the ride height was upped a bit just before being finalized into production.
Dec 21, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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Really? other than myself who else? I don't remember seeing "many" 08-09's with blown shocks?
Im so glad im getting a "Tuner Friendly" car this time around, the lancer and it's aftermarket "or lack their of" parts was frustrating. If someone gets $2000 coilovers for this car people will be flamming them for spending so much on a "slow car", and when someone goes the cheap route the flaming is still there for not using coils and all the "your shocks are gonna blow tomorrow!" comments come out. I'll never be another test dummy for a brand new car, and im doing my research to make sure I get something that will respond to mods and not take a month to do so. I don't mean to flame the lancer, but seriously most people with em wish they got something else minus the exterior appeal. And the aftermarket companies could care less to make em more of a competitor with the other cars in it's class, hence the vast amounts of parts available expecially for the canadian spec lancers...
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Dec 21, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Really? other than myself who else? I don't remember seeing "many" 08-09's with blown shocks?
Im so glad im getting a "Tuner Friendly" car this time around, the lancer and it's aftermarket "or lack their of" parts was frustrating. If someone gets $2000 coilovers for this car people will be flamming them for spending so much on a "slow car", and when someone goes the cheap route the flaming is still there for not using coils and all the "your shocks are gonna blow tomorrow!" comments come out. I'll never be another test dummy for a brand new car, and im doing my research to make sure I get something that will respond to mods and not take a month to do so. I don't mean to flame the lancer, but seriously most people with em wish they got something else minus the exterior appeal. And the aftermarket companies could care less to make em more of a competitor with the other cars in it's class, hence the vast amounts of parts available expecially for the canadian spec lancers...
Im so glad im getting a "Tuner Friendly" car this time around, the lancer and it's aftermarket "or lack their of" parts was frustrating. If someone gets $2000 coilovers for this car people will be flamming them for spending so much on a "slow car", and when someone goes the cheap route the flaming is still there for not using coils and all the "your shocks are gonna blow tomorrow!" comments come out. I'll never be another test dummy for a brand new car, and im doing my research to make sure I get something that will respond to mods and not take a month to do so. I don't mean to flame the lancer, but seriously most people with em wish they got something else minus the exterior appeal. And the aftermarket companies could care less to make em more of a competitor with the other cars in it's class, hence the vast amounts of parts available expecially for the canadian spec lancers...
Dec 21, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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for you genesis gets my vote
Dec 22, 2009 | 05:53 AM
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Dec 22, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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I was considering the G-Coupe but it's that front bumper that detours me everytime, I need to see a nice looking aftermarket front bumper come out for it before I will consider it again. As far as price range goes I got 19.5K for my lancer so im willing to spend that on another car, either as a down-payment or to buy a car outright. And it HAS to have AWD/RWD+Turbo, no FWD or N/A's again.
Dec 22, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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lol already seen work on the 6 cyl. version. Changing the spark plugs is pretty pricey cause of the pain in the butt positioning. Saw them working on it at Four Star motorsports. 
its still a pretty car but it was something to see them gut everything from the inside and dump it on the floor
its still a pretty car
but it was something to see them gut everything from the inside and dump it on the floor
Dec 22, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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lol already seen work on the 6 cyl. version. Changing the spark plugs is pretty pricey cause of the pain in the butt positioning. Saw them working on it at Four Star motorsports.
its still a pretty car but it was something to see them gut everything from the inside and dump it on the floor
its still a pretty car
but it was something to see them gut everything from the inside and dump it on the floor But it's hard to go wrong with the Gen 2.0T-Track if you want to buy new...
...Depending on how much you'd like to spend, the 370Z and e82 135i are promising too, i would have taken one of those over my STi if i were to rebuy.
If you're willing to buy used...
e46M3
GDB STi
AP2 S2000
...would be at the top of my list, in that exact order.
Really depends what you're looking for. Track car? Daily Driver? Luxury? Bit of both?
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