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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 01:57 AM
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coilover setup

hey,

just got my bc coils on today, and i plan to adjust everything tomorrow.

just wondering, whats everyones setup? (ie. dampers, camber, preload, height)

mainly looking for feedback on the dampers and preload since the rears are impossible to adjust the dampers without taking it out.

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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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A good setup is usually to start in the middle of the dampening and just tune it as you see fit. In terms of the Camber, that depends on a few things, do you want too setup for tight cornering, is your ride hight too low and causing rubbing. And preload, I recommend leaving it at the factory setting and drive it for a week, if you feel that you need too increase it then go for it.

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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 09:37 AM
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for the preload, what does it actually do? i noticed if i increase it, the spring gets more compressed and eventually the height increases, but performance wise i have no clue.
Old Jun 29, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by qJai
mainly looking for feedback on the dampers and preload since the rears are impossible to adjust the dampers without taking it out.

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install the extensions so you can adjust anytime
Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:52 PM
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did yours come with it? mine werent in the box and i heard they are suppose to
Old Jun 30, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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i dont have bc but megans came with it, inform your seller or double check package contents
Old Jun 30, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by qJai
for the preload, what does it actually do? i noticed if i increase it, the spring gets more compressed and eventually the height increases, but performance wise i have no clue.
The best way to think about preload is to start with an example that has none, such as the stock suspension. When you lower a stock-sprung car back down onto the wheels, the springs compress until the force they are holding equals the weight of the car. This "baseline static compression" is taking away bump travel; it's less space available in bump before you hit the bumpstops, etc.

Preload allows you to get the springs to produce some proportion of the force needed to hold up the car before you put the car back down on the wheels. In the extreme case, you could set the preload equal to the corner weight, but you really don't want to do this, because preload shifts travel from droop to bump so complete preload implies no droop and now you're lifting inside wheels all the time. And don't even think about setting preload above the corner-weight since that's the same as packing down and now the ride becomes unbearable.

If in doubt, you can do either of two things: (a) assume the vendor knew what they were doing and leave it alone or (b) set preload at the midpoint to start (i.e., set the preload at each corner to be half the corner-weight).

We can have a deeper discussion of choosing a preload for a given type of driving, but I'd have to get my notes out before I could be any more helpful.
Old Jun 30, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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Get ahold of ssp they ran on their Evo n have done well see if they will tell you base settings
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 09:34 PM
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The best way to think about preload is to start with an example that has none, such as the stock suspension. When you lower a stock-sprung car back down onto the wheels, the springs compress until the force they are holding equals the weight of the car. This "baseline static compression" is taking away bump travel; it's less space available in bump before you hit the bumpstops, etc.

Preload allows you to get the springs to produce some proportion of the force needed to hold up the car before you put the car back down on the wheels. In the extreme case, you could set the preload equal to the corner weight, but you really don't want to do this, because preload shifts travel from droop to bump so complete preload implies no droop and now you're lifting inside wheels all the time. And don't even think about setting preload above the corner-weight since that's the same as packing down and now the ride becomes unbearable.

If in doubt, you can do either of two things: (a) assume the vendor knew what they were doing and leave it alone or (b) set preload at the midpoint to start (i.e., set the preload at each corner to be half the corner-weight).

We can have a deeper discussion of choosing a preload for a given type of driving, but I'd have to get my notes out before I could be any more helpful.


yea i basically max lowed my car and increased my preload a bit to around 6-8 threads above max low. seems pretty ok. a bit bumpy
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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i dont have bc but megans came with it, inform your seller or double check package contents

i contacted nextmod and they gave me a set. well 2 since they didnt know which one was for mine, so gotta remove rear struts and add them on.... too bad i already did my alignment.
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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so yea, my setup at the moment is:

max low
front dampers 20/30 (30 = stiffest)
rear dampers 8/20 (out of box)
-4.4 camber front with 30mm spacers
-2.2 camber rear with no spacers (spacers fit, but rubbing on bumper tab)

probably play around a bit more sometime soon to find the most preferable setup.
want to keep my 30mm spacers but looks like i might need to buy a set of 20mm for the rear to prevent rubbing on the tab... or shave off the tab like most others do.
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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buy new wheels, not spacers.. but i guess thats for another thread?
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 10:25 PM
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no money atm so just gonna stick with my spacers for now
Old Jul 2, 2011 | 09:15 AM
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Dude -4.4 upfront? Unreal that is going to destroy serious rubber lol great for track but not dd. Lemme know how long your tires last .

I'd go stiffer rear then front just me tho.
Old Jul 2, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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I would too. But need to install those extensions first before. I can do anything lol.
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