NEW RELEASE!! Precision Turbo Billet 5857 Turbo w/ PTE Cartridge!!!!
Oct 1, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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well I certainly cant wait for your guys results and dyno graph if possible. I am definitely interested in the 5857 and what it can do. You mentioned that choosing one of the aforementioned turbos should be based on HP goals not spool necessarily, but I am interested in its spool characteristics for the street. anyway, I've got the crank bugs goin, so hope you guys are able to put something down soon.. Keep up the great work Mike
The thing about it is though between the 3 turbos 58,60 and 62 choosing the turbo really is based on what PEAK HP you want to make.. What i mean by that is if a customer tells me he wants 780hp i cant suggest a 58 or 60.. it wont make the HP.. it must be 6262 and youll get the associated lag that comes with it vs. 5857..
Now if someone says i just want the best spool and only 600hp then easy choice 5857.. so really i tailor most turbo choices based on the peak HP the customer wants.. because even if it spools super quick if they are on the dyno and short 80hp they arent going to be very happy with my suggestion..
Another example is a customer looking for 800+hp.. You have 1 choice in t3.. 6765 billet.. Yes its laggy but its made 920hp so far and no other t3 on the market comes close to that..
Mike
Oct 1, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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For up to 500-525whp i usually suggest the red as the powerband is impossible to beat in t3 form.. however this turbo if you think youll want 600-650hp down the road will fit the bill nicely on a stock motor until you upgrade or decide you have the ***** to make 600hp on a stock motor.. LOL
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. The only reason I asked is because I was interested in doing a staged build up, since it'll be my first turbo car and didnt want to jump into big power off the bat. Looking at between 350-400whp and 350-400wtq, reasonable for a newbie you think or should i just settle for something a bit less using the stock turbo? Sorry for all the questions but I just want to do it right.
Oct 1, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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LOL, appreciate it mike . The only reason I asked is because I was interested in doing a staged build up, since it'll be my first turbo car and didnt want to jump into big power off the bat. Looking at between 350-400whp and 350-400wtq, reasonable for a newbie you think or should i just settle for something a bit less using the stock turbo? Sorry for all the questions but I just want to do it right.
. The only reason I asked is because I was interested in doing a staged build up, since it'll be my first turbo car and didnt want to jump into big power off the bat. Looking at between 350-400whp and 350-400wtq, reasonable for a newbie you think or should i just settle for something a bit less using the stock turbo? Sorry for all the questions but I just want to do it right.Mike
Oct 1, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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It's a Garrett turbo with Tial compressor housing and FP comp wheel. Who cares it is besides the point.
My point is, does Precision have something that makes more power than a 35R AND spools quicker? Isn't this a natural question to ask? Seems to be the million dollar question to me.
Mike you seem really keen on promoting PT turbos. Why don't you then do a test and see if PT can beat the 35R for power and spool quicker. Would be great for the community and great marketing for PT.
My point is, does Precision have something that makes more power than a 35R AND spools quicker? Isn't this a natural question to ask? Seems to be the million dollar question to me.
Mike you seem really keen on promoting PT turbos. Why don't you then do a test and see if PT can beat the 35R for power and spool quicker. Would be great for the community and great marketing for PT.
Oct 1, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Does the 6765 do something special power curve wise when comparing to both T3 and T4 turbo kits?
Oct 1, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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It's a Garrett turbo with Tial compressor housing and FP comp wheel. Who cares it is besides the point.
My point is, does Precision have something that makes more power than a 35R AND spools quicker? Isn't this a natural question to ask? Seems to be the million dollar question to me.
Mike you seem really keen on promoting PT turbos. Why don't you then do a test and see if PT can beat the 35R for power and spool quicker. Would be great for the community and great marketing for PT.
My point is, does Precision have something that makes more power than a 35R AND spools quicker? Isn't this a natural question to ask? Seems to be the million dollar question to me.
Mike you seem really keen on promoting PT turbos. Why don't you then do a test and see if PT can beat the 35R for power and spool quicker. Would be great for the community and great marketing for PT.
Mike
Oct 1, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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Oct 1, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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I gotcha Mike.. I understand your recommendations would be based off the wants of the customer, so peak power wanted would dictate your decision on which turbo you'd recommend. I, personally want the 500-600WHP, but not give up too much on spool up time. I was hell bent on the FP Red, but depending on the outcome of this turbo it might curb my interests a bit more. I am doing a complete 2.0L build with Buschur stage III head and gonna run 50/50 meth, but dont want to run 30+psi to reach 500+whp if I don't have to... thanks Mike...
Im not sure if maybe i typed something wrong but certainly we have concerns of spool characteristics also..
The thing about it is though between the 3 turbos 58,60 and 62 choosing the turbo really is based on what PEAK HP you want to make.. What i mean by that is if a customer tells me he wants 780hp i cant suggest a 58 or 60.. it wont make the HP.. it must be 6262 and youll get the associated lag that comes with it vs. 5857..
Now if someone says i just want the best spool and only 600hp then easy choice 5857.. so really i tailor most turbo choices based on the peak HP the customer wants.. because even if it spools super quick if they are on the dyno and short 80hp they arent going to be very happy with my suggestion..
Another example is a customer looking for 800+hp.. You have 1 choice in t3.. 6765 billet.. Yes its laggy but its made 920hp so far and no other t3 on the market comes close to that..
Mike
The thing about it is though between the 3 turbos 58,60 and 62 choosing the turbo really is based on what PEAK HP you want to make.. What i mean by that is if a customer tells me he wants 780hp i cant suggest a 58 or 60.. it wont make the HP.. it must be 6262 and youll get the associated lag that comes with it vs. 5857..
Now if someone says i just want the best spool and only 600hp then easy choice 5857.. so really i tailor most turbo choices based on the peak HP the customer wants.. because even if it spools super quick if they are on the dyno and short 80hp they arent going to be very happy with my suggestion..
Another example is a customer looking for 800+hp.. You have 1 choice in t3.. 6765 billet.. Yes its laggy but its made 920hp so far and no other t3 on the market comes close to that..
Mike
Oct 1, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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I gotcha Mike.. I understand your recommendations would be based off the wants of the customer, so peak power wanted would dictate your decision on which turbo you'd recommend. I, personally want the 500-600WHP, but not give up too much on spool up time. I was hell bent on the FP Red, but depending on the outcome of this turbo it might curb my interests a bit more. I am doing a complete 2.0L build with Buschur stage III head and gonna run 50/50 meth, but dont want to run 30+psi to reach 500+whp if I don't have to... thanks Mike...
Mike
Oct 1, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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You might be on target with the 60lb/min.. I honestly i have never asked PTE for flow info before but maybe they have something... Ill ask..
1 thing i did notice however is that the 58mm is 6 blade and 60mm is 7 blade.. My experience is that 6blade makes more peak power but 7 blade makes a little better power at lower boost..
Mike
