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Old Nov 22, 2005, 07:53 AM
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Forge Motorsport BCDK - Brake Cooling Duct Kit

Prototype units are in, test fit, and ready for production.

As a little bit of background, all Forge Motorsport products are manufactured in-house at Forge Motorsport UK, certified under the ISO quality control standard 9001, and this product WILL carry a Lifetime Warranty against all defects and failure which is fully transferable to any subsequent product owner.

A video tour of our UK manufacturing facility can be seen here:
http://www.forgemotorsport.com/content.asp?inc=media

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Forge Part Number - FMEVOBCDK

Brake Cooling Duct Kit

Fits - All Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 7/8/9 with OEM Brembo calipers

Current ESTIMATED Price - $200 plus shipping and applicable taxes

Estimated Availability - 3 weeks

Included Components:
- Brake Ducts
- Fitting Hardware
- Roughly 10 feet of 2" high-temp ducting
- Clamps and zip-ties to secure ducting
- Basic Instructions
- POSSIBLY duct inlets (still working on possible design)
- Forge Sticker

(This product is only designed to work with the OEM Brembo calipers. We cannot guarantee fitment with any other brake caliper upgrades or downgrades(non-Brembo Evo RS). This product will also work with aftermarket rotors, so long as the OEM Brembo calipers are still used.)

This product will be available through any one of our distributors/dealers, many of which are also EvoM vendors.

We will consider doing an initial one-time Group Buy, but nothing has been decided upon yet.

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These units are hand made in the UK by our own fabrication team.

The bodies use 2mm thick sheet aluminum, the brackets are 3mm thick sheet aluminum, and the tubing is 2mm thick 2" diameter aluminum tubing with a bead rolled end for secure mounting of the ducting. The entire assembly is lightly polished.

The ducts are designed to bolt directly to the wheel hub using the OEM caliper carrier mounting points and the supplied 100% stainless steel hardware.

The ducts have been designed to allow for optimal clearance from the axle boot, the caliper itself, and all other working and non-working suspension and braking components. They also allow for a full range of steering input without any clearance issues.

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Weights:
- Each duct weighs exactly 1/3 of a pound (2/3 for both)
- The entire set of hardware for both front calipers weighs just a hair under 1 pound.
- Ducting will weight about 2 to 2.5 pounds depending on how much each person uses on their car.

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Pictures:

INSTALLED PICTURES BELOW




*These pictures are of the intial prototype units, so they are a little rough looking. Production units will be nice and clean.

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As some technical background, when a vented (vaned) rotor spins, it creates a vacuum pulling air from the center of the rotor out to the outer edge of the rotor. Typically, the air drawn from the center of the rotor is very hot anyway, creating minimal to no actual cooling at best. Directing cooler air from any other source to the center of the rotor will decrease the temperature of the air cooling the rotor significantly increasing it's ability to keep cool.

The vacuum effect created by the rotation of the rotor implys that cooler air will be drawn through the ducting without any kind of inlet trumpet, so long as the car is moving (rotor spinning), so there will be no decrease in cooling efficiency as compared to those kits that will include trumpets or if trumpets are not used on any one person's bumper.

Again, we have not yet determined if duct inlet trumpets will or won't be included, but the price will not change much, if at all if we do include them.

Our goal is to make this product useable on any OEM or aftermarket front bumper, so the inclusion of bumper-specific duct inlets could inhibit the fitment of this product to certain bumpers. We will try to accomodate every possible application, but keep in mind that some custom work (minimal at best), some imagination, and some ingenuity will be required to install this product (route ducting) to YOUR car.

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This thread is for the discussion of our version of this product only, and we would sincerely appreciate that discussions of similar products from other reputable shops and EvoM vendors be discussed elsewhere. Each product deserves it's own spotlight.

We were discussing EvoM vendor status with Mark M. before he passed away, and we intend to complete the process very soon for those of you concerned about it.

"Stay tuned!"

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Old Nov 22, 2005, 08:05 AM
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Looking forward to the reviews. So, have you guys done any imperical testing yet?

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Old Nov 22, 2005, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by QAT-R
So, have you guys done any imperical testing yet?
Not yet.

We don't have the right size ducting on hand yet, so once we have that, we'll finish the install and do some testing.
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What a great idea; I am interested in purchasing this kit when it comes out. will it fit Stoptech 332 mm big brake kit on the Evo?
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Originally Posted by showard232
Will it fit Stoptech 332 mm big brake kit on the Evo?
I don't know!

If someone with this brake kit wants to come by our shop, we can test fit them to find out.
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awesome!!
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looks identical to the power engineering ducts... since I have those I know these will work.

might have to massage them a little to make them fit... but that is how it goes.

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oh Junk!!! (as in Kick ***!)
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I will have installed pictures up by the end of the day for sure.

Nils, these are very similar to the PE ducts, we know, and we will likely receive hell for it, but these have already been "massaged" to fit perfectly. (I did it myself yesterday.) The production units will fit like OEM pieces and will carry a lifetime warranty!
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May I suggest a naca inlet that can be mounted into the undertray? It would require cutting a small rectangle in the plastic tray, but should work on nearly every car.
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That'd be sweet if the ducts mounted to our undertray guides.

For the people running aggressive pads on the street, will running the ducts full-time make it harder for the brakes to warm up and bite? It'd be cool if an easily removable block-off plate was included w/ the inlets.
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Originally Posted by marksae
It'd be cool if an easily removable block-off plate was included w/ the inlets.
Just use duct tape if you are worried about it.
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Originally Posted by Mike@Forge
I will have installed pictures up by the end of the day for sure.

Nils, these are very similar to the PE ducts, we know, and we will likely receive hell for it, but these have already been "massaged" to fit perfectly. (I did it myself yesterday.) The production units will fit like OEM pieces and will carry a lifetime warranty!

Sweet... nothing wrong with giving the people what they want.

Tell Angel I said wassup.

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Installed Pictures:

Close Up

Full Size: http://www.hostdub.com/albums/MikeFo...4/DSC00638.jpg

Wheel straight ahead

Full Size: http://www.hostdub.com/albums/MikeFo...4/DSC00646.jpg

Clearance with wheel turned in at full lock

Full Size: http://www.hostdub.com/albums/MikeFo...4/DSC00644.jpg

Again, clearance with wheel turned in at full lock

Full Size: http://www.hostdub.com/albums/MikeFo...4/DSC00645.jpg

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The next three shots were taken using a tripod with the camera in a stationary position to show that the full range of steering motion and ample clearance was maintained with these units.

The pictures are shown in order from wheel turned out (full lock), center, and wheel turned in (full lock).

The full size links are provided below in the same order.





Full Size Links:

http://www.hostdub.com/albums/MikeFo...4/DSC00649.jpg
http://www.hostdub.com/albums/MikeFo...4/DSC00648.jpg
http://www.hostdub.com/albums/MikeFo...4/DSC00652.jpg


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