Pushing some new intake manifolds to the limit!
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so have you got all the intakes yet? any chance of a line up mug shot of them all?
have a read of this thread i just found, some intresting info for sure http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/69...l-plenium.html
have a read of this thread i just found, some intresting info for sure http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/69...l-plenium.html
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Ted I completely understand the purpose of the bellmouth idea and how it works but there has been much testing done by many of the prostock and promod guys in the NHRA world with extreme high psi and cfm engines and there has been no proven gain for the bellmouth with air flow and volumes that Paul will need to be pushing to get to his goal on his car. The radius in the plenum was originaly designed for NA cars, and helps in low velocity apps but at 45+ psi out of a 45R that Paul will be running the larger plenum will make more of a difference then the radius would. By the way I don't think Blake has ever owned a V8
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A sharp 90 degree bend, be it in household plumbing, a head port, or otherwise constitutes an obstruction. The faster the flow of media through the system, the greater the obstruction, not the other way around.
Obviously, the laws of physics haven't changed, so if someone is telling me that radiused, raised runner entries don't matter, that seems to indicate that somewhere along the line, something isn't apples to apples, and one can only speculate given than insufficient information has been presented.
Just a stark observation . . .
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Ted I am not argueing the fact that the radius helps in any way I was just stating what I have learned from some of the big inch high horsepower companies that are at all the races that we attend from all over the country. Alot of the companies like BES, Self racing, and Conly that make sheetmetal intakes for the high rpm prostock cars have seen minimal advantages of the radius when under high preasures at high rpm from big turbos or blowers. They have found larger plenum and tapered ports have a larger gain then the radius. AMS's new intake with all three aspects should and probably will work very well.
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Ted I am not argueing the fact that the radius helps in any way I was just stating what I have learned from some of the big inch high horsepower companies that are at all the races that we attend from all over the country. Alot of the companies like BES, Self racing, and Conly that make sheetmetal intakes for the high rpm prostock cars have seen minimal advantages of the radius when under high preasures at high rpm from big turbos or blowers. They have found larger plenum and tapered ports have a larger gain then the radius. AMS's new intake with all three aspects should and probably will work very well.
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Paul did you ever just change from something to the Magnus to get an idea of how it may have helped you?
I run the Magnus Race as pictured above on the left. I'm very interested to see how it does but I've ordered a HKS Kansai from Dave just in case
I figure if the Magnus Race does well in your test I'll just sell on the HKS later. But given the lack of performance of the old Magnus piece I think a lot of skepticism is warranted.
I run the Magnus Race as pictured above on the left. I'm very interested to see how it does but I've ordered a HKS Kansai from Dave just in case
I figure if the Magnus Race does well in your test I'll just sell on the HKS later. But given the lack of performance of the old Magnus piece I think a lot of skepticism is warranted.
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Paul did you ever just change from something to the Magnus to get an idea of how it may have helped you?
I run the Magnus Race as pictured above on the left. I'm very interested to see how it does but I've ordered a HKS Kansai from Dave just in case
I figure if the Magnus Race does well in your test I'll just sell on the HKS later. But given the lack of performance of the old Magnus piece I think a lot of skepticism is warranted.
I run the Magnus Race as pictured above on the left. I'm very interested to see how it does but I've ordered a HKS Kansai from Dave just in case
I figure if the Magnus Race does well in your test I'll just sell on the HKS later. But given the lack of performance of the old Magnus piece I think a lot of skepticism is warranted.
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How long untill the testing starts?
Also will you have a 3.5" outlet out of the intercooler and 3.5" piping to see if it makes any more power with the models that accept larger TB's? that way your still going to have afair test all using the same diameter piping, so lag won't be an issue, if you were to go up in size.
Also will you have a 3.5" outlet out of the intercooler and 3.5" piping to see if it makes any more power with the models that accept larger TB's? that way your still going to have afair test all using the same diameter piping, so lag won't be an issue, if you were to go up in size.