Deadbolt turbos ???
Apr 17, 2008, 07:09 PM
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Overpriced doesnt always mean quality.... Not saying that FP is over priced...
In the car world money doesn't buy quality, reputation does.. Then with reputation comes higher pricing, at that point you're paying for the name not the product.
EX... Ebay IC... I got mine for $100 shipped over a year ago.. That was the going price. Then people started finding out how well they work and saw that the build quality was actually pretty damn nice... Now you'll find them for $250 shipped.
Back on topic... I have a few sti friends that have been running these guys turbos for a while now and have had 0 problems. I was considering doing this upgrade to my ix turbo before I went big turbo.
Cheers!
Apr 17, 2008, 07:42 PM
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The FP Green upgrade from a IX includes replacement of the turbine wheel assembly with a higher performance one, a complete rebuild, AND the replacement of the compressor wheel with the high performance one, all balanced on a real cartridge spin balancer You can see the full rebuild option at Buschur, which is $995 with your usable core. If you compare this to any FP offering in terms of cost, it would be more comparable to the cost of an HTA compressor wheel upgrade on a 35R, which is $450 or so, including VSR balancing (which this supplier does not offer).
In contrast, this alternative is ONLY the replacement of the compressor wheel. There is NO turbine wheel replacement, no rebuild, etc.
If there is any comparison to be made, the closest would be to the original White Rabbit turbo, not any current FP product. Without matching the turbine wheel to the bigger compressor wheel, there is really no useful comparison to be made.
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Apr 18, 2008, 05:41 AM
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You're not remotely comparing apples to apples.
The FP Green upgrade from a IX includes replacement of the turbine wheel assembly with a higher performance one, a complete rebuild, AND the replacement of the compressor wheel with the high performance one, all balanced on a real cartridge spin balancer You can see the full rebuild option at Buschur, which is $995 with your usable core. If you compare this to any FP offering in terms of cost, it would be more comparable to the cost of an HTA compressor wheel upgrade on a 35R, which is $450 or so, including VSR balancing (which this supplier does not offer).
In contrast, this alternative is ONLY the replacement of the compressor wheel. There is NO turbine wheel replacement, no rebuild, etc.
If there is any comparison to be made, the closest would be to the original White Rabbit turbo, not any current FP product. Without matching the turbine wheel to the bigger compressor wheel, there is really no useful comparison to be made.
The FP Green upgrade from a IX includes replacement of the turbine wheel assembly with a higher performance one, a complete rebuild, AND the replacement of the compressor wheel with the high performance one, all balanced on a real cartridge spin balancer You can see the full rebuild option at Buschur, which is $995 with your usable core. If you compare this to any FP offering in terms of cost, it would be more comparable to the cost of an HTA compressor wheel upgrade on a 35R, which is $450 or so, including VSR balancing (which this supplier does not offer).
In contrast, this alternative is ONLY the replacement of the compressor wheel. There is NO turbine wheel replacement, no rebuild, etc.
If there is any comparison to be made, the closest would be to the original White Rabbit turbo, not any current FP product. Without matching the turbine wheel to the bigger compressor wheel, there is really no useful comparison to be made.
Apr 18, 2008, 09:39 AM
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The "back in the day" sleeper 16g had a HUGE 6H turbine wheel in it, one of the main reasons that it actually worked. 6H is 68mm wheel, 5H is a 56mm wheel - and you just cant get it to flow enough to max out a 47# wheel, even with a 20 degree clip.
We stopped making the "white Rabbit" because the general perception was that adding a 44-47# wheel to the stock clipped turbine wheel (white rabbit) did not delivery sufficient increase in power, and for the most part I agree with this popular sentiment. There are literally dozens of threads on this subject.
Honestly I can't believe that this configuration is resurfacing, in 2006 the evo world decided that it completely sucked. Use the search feature.
Boost ON!
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We stopped making the "white Rabbit" because the general perception was that adding a 44-47# wheel to the stock clipped turbine wheel (white rabbit) did not delivery sufficient increase in power, and for the most part I agree with this popular sentiment. There are literally dozens of threads on this subject.
Honestly I can't believe that this configuration is resurfacing, in 2006 the evo world decided that it completely sucked. Use the search feature.
Boost ON!
Robert Young
Apr 18, 2008, 12:47 PM
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Here is the prices I got back from DBT
Compressor wheel upgrade - $349.00
Turbine clip & rebalance - $99.00
Port turbine housing - $195.00
Black ceramic coat turbine housing - $75.00
Grey ceramic coat compressor housing - $75.00
Red ceramic coat compressor housing - $95.00
Compressor outlet port - $45.00
Compressor wheel upgrade - $349.00
Turbine clip & rebalance - $99.00
Port turbine housing - $195.00
Black ceramic coat turbine housing - $75.00
Grey ceramic coat compressor housing - $75.00
Red ceramic coat compressor housing - $95.00
Compressor outlet port - $45.00
Apr 18, 2008, 12:47 PM
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Robert, make a turbo that flows 55lbs of air or so and we will buy it.
Of course you could return mail or phone calls and answer when you may be interested in doing such a turbo but as you will not do that I am happy to see that other folks are coming to the market who may offer the turbo that many of us seek.
Of course you could return mail or phone calls and answer when you may be interested in doing such a turbo but as you will not do that I am happy to see that other folks are coming to the market who may offer the turbo that many of us seek.
Apr 18, 2008, 02:04 PM
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The "back in the day" sleeper 16g had a HUGE 6H turbine wheel in it, one of the main reasons that it actually worked. 6H is 68mm wheel, 5H is a 56mm wheel - and you just cant get it to flow enough to max out a 47# wheel, even with a 20 degree clip.
We stopped making the "white Rabbit" because the general perception was that adding a 44-47# wheel to the stock clipped turbine wheel (white rabbit) did not delivery sufficient increase in power, and for the most part I agree with this popular sentiment. There are literally dozens of threads on this subject.
Honestly I can't believe that this configuration is resurfacing, in 2006 the evo world decided that it completely sucked. Use the search feature.
Boost ON!
Robert Young
We stopped making the "white Rabbit" because the general perception was that adding a 44-47# wheel to the stock clipped turbine wheel (white rabbit) did not delivery sufficient increase in power, and for the most part I agree with this popular sentiment. There are literally dozens of threads on this subject.
Honestly I can't believe that this configuration is resurfacing, in 2006 the evo world decided that it completely sucked. Use the search feature.
Boost ON!
Robert Young
Apr 18, 2008, 02:24 PM
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The "back in the day" sleeper 16g had a HUGE 6H turbine wheel in it, one of the main reasons that it actually worked. 6H is 68mm wheel, 5H is a 56mm wheel - and you just cant get it to flow enough to max out a 47# wheel, even with a 20 degree clip.
We stopped making the "white Rabbit" because the general perception was that adding a 44-47# wheel to the stock clipped turbine wheel (white rabbit) did not delivery sufficient increase in power, and for the most part I agree with this popular sentiment. There are literally dozens of threads on this subject.
Honestly I can't believe that this configuration is resurfacing, in 2006 the evo world decided that it completely sucked. Use the search feature.
Boost ON!
Robert Young
We stopped making the "white Rabbit" because the general perception was that adding a 44-47# wheel to the stock clipped turbine wheel (white rabbit) did not delivery sufficient increase in power, and for the most part I agree with this popular sentiment. There are literally dozens of threads on this subject.
Honestly I can't believe that this configuration is resurfacing, in 2006 the evo world decided that it completely sucked. Use the search feature.
Boost ON!
Robert Young
I thought the white rabbit just got renamed.
Apr 23, 2008, 05:37 PM
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just so you guys know...they have Horrible customer service
...ive been waiting forever for my turbo...and by buddy got one from them as well,and it wouldnt boost past 21 PSI.he sent it back 2 weeks ago,and has heard NOTHING from them yet
im starting to regret choosing them
...ive been waiting forever for my turbo...and by buddy got one from them as well,and it wouldnt boost past 21 PSI.he sent it back 2 weeks ago,and has heard NOTHING from them yetim starting to regret choosing them