New Magnus Cast Manifold installed
#46
Fathouse Ihave one here with your name on it :P
Robert yes the throttle body is on a 15 degree angle towards the front of the car to facilitate intercooler plumbing.
There is no info on my website as of yet, but there will be shortly!
Once again yes it has been dyno'd on many different setups.
Robert yes the throttle body is on a 15 degree angle towards the front of the car to facilitate intercooler plumbing.
There is no info on my website as of yet, but there will be shortly!
Once again yes it has been dyno'd on many different setups.
#47
Divulge a little on your CFD work.
Program used
model type
mesh properties
boundary conditions
You know, just the basics.
Can't wait to see the cut-aways. Can't wait to have my mind blown.
As for being the company with the most experience on a 4 cylinder... I don't know, lots of formula Atlantics, professional teams like Cosworth, Honda, Toyota and Lotus to name a few. That's a pretty tall claim.
Program used
model type
mesh properties
boundary conditions
You know, just the basics.
Can't wait to see the cut-aways. Can't wait to have my mind blown.
As for being the company with the most experience on a 4 cylinder... I don't know, lots of formula Atlantics, professional teams like Cosworth, Honda, Toyota and Lotus to name a few. That's a pretty tall claim.
Last edited by 03whitegsr; Jul 21, 2008 at 09:07 PM.
#48
03white GSR : read it again
"When it comes to aftermarket 4cylinder intake manifold technology: we have the most experience period"
You seem to be fishing for a internet fight, but on the other hand, it also sounds like you know might know what you're talking about. Unfortunately you'll have to wait like everyone else.
"When it comes to aftermarket 4cylinder intake manifold technology: we have the most experience period"
You seem to be fishing for a internet fight, but on the other hand, it also sounds like you know might know what you're talking about. Unfortunately you'll have to wait like everyone else.
#50
03white GSR : read it again
"When it comes to aftermarket 4cylinder intake manifold technology: we have the most experience period"
You seem to be fishing for a internet fight, but on the other hand, it also sounds like you know might know what you're talking about. Unfortunately you'll have to wait like everyone else.
"When it comes to aftermarket 4cylinder intake manifold technology: we have the most experience period"
You seem to be fishing for a internet fight, but on the other hand, it also sounds like you know might know what you're talking about. Unfortunately you'll have to wait like everyone else.
They all make 4-cylinder manifolds for the aftermarket. The are stocked with teams of engineers and massive budgets. You made a TALL claim.
I'm not looking for a fight at all. Just not buying into hype.
If your product is what you say it is, these words shouldn't come across too threatening. But then again, if you were threatened by the words, I could see you sending PMs of condescending nature and of poor tack. I expected nothing less...and got what I expected.
#54
Cosworth, Eldelbrock, I'm sure there are others...
They all make 4-cylinder manifolds for the aftermarket. The are stocked with teams of engineers and massive budgets. You made a TALL claim.
I'm not looking for a fight at all. Just not buying into hype.
If your product is what you say it is, these words shouldn't come across too threatening. But then again, if you were threatened by the words, I could see you sending PMs of condescending nature and of poor tack. I expected nothing less...and got what I expected.
They all make 4-cylinder manifolds for the aftermarket. The are stocked with teams of engineers and massive budgets. You made a TALL claim.
I'm not looking for a fight at all. Just not buying into hype.
If your product is what you say it is, these words shouldn't come across too threatening. But then again, if you were threatened by the words, I could see you sending PMs of condescending nature and of poor tack. I expected nothing less...and got what I expected.
I'm sure this is what you are looking for in this picture.
Without giving everything away about how we do things here, I've shrunk it on purpose. That should answer most of your initial questions. But so as to not underestimate you, I'm expecting there are more questions to come.
Thanks.
#57
Marco, you have not underestimated me. I know very little when it comes to real automotive type engineering. Like I said in in the AMS thread, results speak louder then math. There is still plenty of hope to prove your product to myself and other discerning potential buyers.
Looking at that picture though, it was my "best case" judgment of what you were talking about. It looks to be a 3D steady state analysis. I admit, you have disproved my initial thoughts in that I was skeptical of any CFD work actually being done.
Boundary conditions are likely a mass flow inlet with static pressure outlets
All 4 ports flowed simultaneously
No wave propagation was simulated
Mesh looks course, but display properties don't always duplicate mesh properties
In the end, you've got a computer based flowbench with all 4 ports being flowed at once. In that picture anyway.
In case anybody is interested in a trick that can accomplish about the same thing, tape some streamers to the outlets and hook a blower to the inlet. Get the streamers to match in oscillation frequency and you should be pretty damn close to this test. How much it applies to making a good manifold on an engine that is subject to pulse flow is beyond me.
Looking at that picture though, it was my "best case" judgment of what you were talking about. It looks to be a 3D steady state analysis. I admit, you have disproved my initial thoughts in that I was skeptical of any CFD work actually being done.
Boundary conditions are likely a mass flow inlet with static pressure outlets
All 4 ports flowed simultaneously
No wave propagation was simulated
Mesh looks course, but display properties don't always duplicate mesh properties
In the end, you've got a computer based flowbench with all 4 ports being flowed at once. In that picture anyway.
In case anybody is interested in a trick that can accomplish about the same thing, tape some streamers to the outlets and hook a blower to the inlet. Get the streamers to match in oscillation frequency and you should be pretty damn close to this test. How much it applies to making a good manifold on an engine that is subject to pulse flow is beyond me.
#58
Marco, you have not underestimated me. I know very little when it comes to real automotive type engineering. Like I said in in the AMS thread, results speak louder then math. There is still plenty of hope to prove your product to myself and other discerning potential buyers.
In the end, you've got a computer based flowbench with all 4 ports being flowed at once. In that picture anyway.
In case anybody is interested in a trick that can accomplish about the same thing, tape some streamers to the outlets and hook a blower to the inlet. Get the streamers to match in oscillation frequency and you should be pretty damn close to this test. How much it applies to making a good manifold on an engine that is subject to pulse flow is beyond me.
In case anybody is interested in a trick that can accomplish about the same thing, tape some streamers to the outlets and hook a blower to the inlet. Get the streamers to match in oscillation frequency and you should be pretty damn close to this test. How much it applies to making a good manifold on an engine that is subject to pulse flow is beyond me.
More pics to follow!
Thanks
#59
If you really wanna go with an old-school F1 style way of checking air flow distribution; spray riboflavin into the air stream entering the intake and you can view the direction of the airflow using a black light
#60