Wilson V2 - FP Green results
Oct 23, 2008, 02:20 PM
#151
My job as a performance consultant consists of providing sound advice. You asked for more power, we declined to work with the AEM as it would not and did not add any power.
You chose to second guess our advice and proved it to yourself in the end. Sometimes we have learned ourselves in the same way so we don't blame you. Just as was stated by another poster, you wanted a second opinion. Fair enough.
So no, we are not in the business of selling, installing, advising and tuning parts that will not increase the performance of the vehicle, which brings us back to the reason why threads like these are posted in the first place. To educate the public and performance advisors so that they have the knowledge available to provide to their clients.
You chose to second guess our advice and proved it to yourself in the end. Sometimes we have learned ourselves in the same way so we don't blame you. Just as was stated by another poster, you wanted a second opinion. Fair enough.
So no, we are not in the business of selling, installing, advising and tuning parts that will not increase the performance of the vehicle, which brings us back to the reason why threads like these are posted in the first place. To educate the public and performance advisors so that they have the knowledge available to provide to their clients.
Proved what in the end??? That I could go quicker with a better tuner and a group of people that know how to get the job done without excuses. Get ahold of yourself. Your delusional at best.... Everytime you bring me into your discussions I promised you I'll be there to explain the truth. The car is now a record holder due to another tuner, their experience, and the aem. Not Scott at TTP and his lack of enthusiasm. I'm done in this thread, I said what was needed and it is the truth. You can stay in here and spread more lies. I'm not gonna get stuck with more points debating this discussion with you. I'm the record holder, NOT you. I wish the op the best in getting the situation resolved. It is a great mani and just needs some tender loving care. I am confident Mike can fix the problem....
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Oct 23, 2008, 02:45 PM
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Aside from all the BS going on this thread, the bottom line is that the OP added 2 mods to his car and it lost a big amount of power. End of story. I would take off those 2 mods and put the car back the way it was making strong numbers with the Green and on pump. Everybody is blaming everything but the parts that where added.
Oct 23, 2008, 02:52 PM
#154
Aside from all the BS going on this thread, the bottom line is that the OP added 2 mods to his car and it lost a big amount of power. End of story. I would take off those 2 mods and put the car back the way it was making strong numbers with the Green and on pump. Everybody is blaming everything but the parts that where added.
Everything else is just off-topic and slanderous.
Oct 23, 2008, 02:55 PM
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Aside from all the BS going on this thread, the bottom line is that the OP added 2 mods to his car and it lost a big amount of power. End of story. I would take off those 2 mods and put the car back the way it was making strong numbers with the Green and on pump. Everybody is blaming everything but the parts that where added.
So if you added a downpipe and exhaust that made power on 20 different cars to your car and it lost power you would just pull it all off and go back to stock?? Thats not exactly the way to make progress.. there are 100's of things that could have caused ozzies car to lose power.. We are going to look over it all and not just jump to pull parts off until we can determine 100% what is the cause of this loss of power..
Oct 23, 2008, 02:55 PM
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Aside from all the BS going on this thread, the bottom line is that the OP added 2 mods to his car and it lost a big amount of power. End of story. I would take off those 2 mods and put the car back the way it was making strong numbers with the Green and on pump. Everybody is blaming everything but the parts that where added.
we have no idea if he lost big power because the boost was different and it was dynoed on different days. And sure, thats the best thing to do is just throw away a 1500 mani that has proven itself over and over
LOL... Sort the problem out and redo tuning back to back. It is a very simple thing to disect. Dyno it just the way it is, then remove the mani and install the other mani and dyno again. That will solve the issue as to whats what.
Oct 23, 2008, 03:04 PM
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we have no idea if he lost big power because the boost was different and it was dynoed on different days. And sure, thats the best thing to do is just throw away a 1500 mani that has proven itself over and over LOL... Sort the problem out and redo tuning back to back. It is a very simple thing to disect. Dyno it just the way it is, then remove the mani and install the other mani and dyno again. That will solve the issue as to whats what.
LOL... Sort the problem out and redo tuning back to back. It is a very simple thing to disect. Dyno it just the way it is, then remove the mani and install the other mani and dyno again. That will solve the issue as to whats what.
Oct 23, 2008, 03:07 PM
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So if you added a downpipe and exhaust that made power on 20 different cars to your car and it lost power you would just pull it all off and go back to stock?? Thats not exactly the way to make progress.. there are 100's of things that could have caused ozzies car to lose power.. We are going to look over it all and not just jump to pull parts off until we can determine 100% what is the cause of this loss of power..
Like a lot of people and I know you guys have tried different combination of parts that just dont work together. In this case the Intake Manifold and the Ignition system is not working with his set up. The OP's was running great and now it seems to have lost power with the new Mods. No reason to throw away the manifold just maybe try a new one from the same company or a diffrent one.
Oct 23, 2008, 03:13 PM
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Like a lot of people and I know you guys have tried different combination of parts that just dont work together. In this case the Intake Manifold and the Ignition system is not working with his set up. The OP's was running great and now it seems to have lost power with the new Mods. No reason to throw away the manifold just maybe try a new one from the same company or a diffrent one.
We dont know if the Manifold is the cause of the loss of power since it was not dynod before the install... Did anyone do a compression test, leakdown, etc?? NO.. I would not assume a loss in power is from the new parts when the dyno test was done 2 months apart.. so the 1st option is not to pull the parts..
Oct 23, 2008, 03:15 PM
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Like a lot of people and I know you guys have tried different combination of parts that just dont work together. In this case the Intake Manifold and the Ignition system is not working with his set up. The OP's was running great and now it seems to have lost power with the new Mods. No reason to throw away the manifold just maybe try a new one from the same company or a diffrent one.
Oct 23, 2008, 03:21 PM
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So if you added a downpipe and exhaust that made power on 20 different cars to your car and it lost power you would just pull it all off and go back to stock?? Thats not exactly the way to make progress.. there are 100's of things that could have caused ozzies car to lose power.. We are going to look over it all and not just jump to pull parts off until we can determine 100% what is the cause of this loss of power..
The cars with success with the manifold are running alot more boost on VP Import or c16....but havent seen any results from a smaller turbo and less boost...Yes DB and the 500 pump gass cars are seeing success with the manifold but maybe this just isnt the right manifold for a smaller turbo, less boost car....anyone think about that?.....Im not at all putting the mani down at all as i was thinking about getting one but with a 1500 price tag i wanted to see more results on pump and less boost than the other cars running the manifold...
If i were the OP i would take it to AWD and take Mike up on his offer and do back to back testing the same day and see what happens....
Oct 23, 2008, 03:27 PM
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I dont agree with this...the OP took a gamble by being one of the FIRST to try it on his setup with a smaller turbo and less boost than the 20 other cars the manifolds have had success on....
The cars with success with the manifold are running alot more boost on VP Import or c16....but havent seen any results from a smaller turbo and less boost...Yes DB and the 500 pump gass cars are seeing success with the manifold but maybe this just isnt the right manifold for a smaller turbo, less boost car....anyone think about that?.....Im not at all putting the mani down at all as i was thinking about getting one but with a 1500 price tag i wanted to see more results on pump and less boost than the other cars running the manifold...
If i were the OP i would take it to AWD and take Mike up on his offer and do back to back testing the same day and see what happens....
The cars with success with the manifold are running alot more boost on VP Import or c16....but havent seen any results from a smaller turbo and less boost...Yes DB and the 500 pump gass cars are seeing success with the manifold but maybe this just isnt the right manifold for a smaller turbo, less boost car....anyone think about that?.....Im not at all putting the mani down at all as i was thinking about getting one but with a 1500 price tag i wanted to see more results on pump and less boost than the other cars running the manifold...
If i were the OP i would take it to AWD and take Mike up on his offer and do back to back testing the same day and see what happens....
You said you dont agree but then the last line you agreed?? I am aware the OP took a chance by just adding parts.. And I agree just because 20 cars make power with a part it might not on your car but the only way to know that is dyno before and after not just pull the parts off..