Carbonetic carbon twin-disc clutch
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Carbonetic carbon twin-disc clutch
I have had this clutch in my car for a little while now and decided to finally stop being lazy and do a writeup on it
First of all I looked at a lot of the different clutches out there before settling on this one. There are lots of pros and cons for all of them, so I'm not going to rehash the myriad of debates that have already taken place, I'm just going to say my thoughts on this one.
First of all the clutch came with great instructions, including those on how to change from the pull to push type system. Install will probably be pretty identical to any other clutch.
Weight wise, it was quite a bit lighter than the old stocker which came off with 40k miles on it, and not a lot of material left on the disc.
Stock was 31.08 lbs with flywheel
Carbonetic was 23.98 with flywheel
Installed
Break in went smoothly, so on to driving impressions.
This clutch is easy to drive. I mean it. I was expecting it to be a bit of a beast, but I don't dread hitting stop and go driving at all (though I have stalled it on occasion not paying attention, this thing will grab when warm ) When the clutch is warm, it has no problem gripping and holding on launches (though I'm more of a road racer). I tried a launch, using the technique I used to with the old clutch, and I got 0 slippage, resulting in a bogged engine. Guess I gotta work on the launch control in the old ecu, as well as my technique!
That being said, this is a twin-disc carbon clutch, so it is NOISY. I forget how much so sometimes until someone asks me if there's something wrong with my car. I laugh and just tell them that's my rock polisher I keep under the hood. If someone had a loud exhaust, it probably wouldn't be as noticeable, but my exhaust is pretty quiet (ETS 3" downpipe from their turbo kit, test pipe, and Fujitsubo cat-back). In the car, if I have the a/c or heater on, and the stereo on at all, I usually can't hear the clutch noise at all though. I tried to make a video of the clutch noise inside the car, but it did not pick up well enough to hear.
However I did make this one outside of the car to give you an idea. You can hear that I idle the car with the clutch out, then in, then rev it both ways, etc. This is in my garage, so it's kind of a "worse case scenario" as far as noise (lots of echo to make the clutch louder) but it gets the point across:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUDs5ODIKyk
Overall, I'm highly impressed with this clutch. Easy to drive, grips great, and though it sounds loud outside, inside my car I rarely notice it anymore.
First of all I looked at a lot of the different clutches out there before settling on this one. There are lots of pros and cons for all of them, so I'm not going to rehash the myriad of debates that have already taken place, I'm just going to say my thoughts on this one.
First of all the clutch came with great instructions, including those on how to change from the pull to push type system. Install will probably be pretty identical to any other clutch.
Weight wise, it was quite a bit lighter than the old stocker which came off with 40k miles on it, and not a lot of material left on the disc.
Stock was 31.08 lbs with flywheel
Carbonetic was 23.98 with flywheel
Installed
Break in went smoothly, so on to driving impressions.
This clutch is easy to drive. I mean it. I was expecting it to be a bit of a beast, but I don't dread hitting stop and go driving at all (though I have stalled it on occasion not paying attention, this thing will grab when warm ) When the clutch is warm, it has no problem gripping and holding on launches (though I'm more of a road racer). I tried a launch, using the technique I used to with the old clutch, and I got 0 slippage, resulting in a bogged engine. Guess I gotta work on the launch control in the old ecu, as well as my technique!
That being said, this is a twin-disc carbon clutch, so it is NOISY. I forget how much so sometimes until someone asks me if there's something wrong with my car. I laugh and just tell them that's my rock polisher I keep under the hood. If someone had a loud exhaust, it probably wouldn't be as noticeable, but my exhaust is pretty quiet (ETS 3" downpipe from their turbo kit, test pipe, and Fujitsubo cat-back). In the car, if I have the a/c or heater on, and the stereo on at all, I usually can't hear the clutch noise at all though. I tried to make a video of the clutch noise inside the car, but it did not pick up well enough to hear.
However I did make this one outside of the car to give you an idea. You can hear that I idle the car with the clutch out, then in, then rev it both ways, etc. This is in my garage, so it's kind of a "worse case scenario" as far as noise (lots of echo to make the clutch louder) but it gets the point across:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUDs5ODIKyk
Overall, I'm highly impressed with this clutch. Easy to drive, grips great, and though it sounds loud outside, inside my car I rarely notice it anymore.
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It shifts quite well, really smooth, and seems to allow higher RPM shifts and better rev-matching for down-shifting then before. At any rate it all works very smooth and crisp.
I have about 3k miles on it, but I'm currently de-tuned to redo the tuning on my car, but it's seen some pretty good abuse since being installed.
I will probably eventually settle in the 400-450whp range, but the potential is there for more.
I have about 3k miles on it, but I'm currently de-tuned to redo the tuning on my car, but it's seen some pretty good abuse since being installed.
I will probably eventually settle in the 400-450whp range, but the potential is there for more.
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ive had this same clutch in my car and have had it for years now, a lil noisy but shifts awesome and fast! the only downside is the price to rebuild them... u might as well buy a new clutch kit for the money they charge for the rebuild! all in all though its a great clutch and holds alot of power and peddle is lighter then stock
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