harness bars, not so good!!!
Mar 16, 2011, 10:39 AM
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harness bars, not so good!!!
This was brought up in the evoM Motorsports section
- Being a safety issue and knowing that many cars run a harness bar it really needed a thread of its own...
- The harness bar failed during a frontal impact collision on the street (non-track incident)
- Passenger was ejected from the vehicle
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2896572
- Being a safety issue and knowing that many cars run a harness bar it really needed a thread of its own...
- The harness bar failed during a frontal impact collision on the street (non-track incident)
- Passenger was ejected from the vehicle
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2896572
Mar 16, 2011, 11:32 AM
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Damn! Yeah I was never impressed by the quality of Sparco's harness bars...but with an accident like that I don't really expect any harness bar to hold up well...I really like my ebay harnress bar that has 3 solid pieces, no adjustable ends like the Sparco unit...My ebay bar is a bit heavier then the Sparco unit but that is fine with me...BUT I also wouldn't expect my ebay bar to hold up in an accident like that either...hope the driver and passgener were alright...
Mar 16, 2011, 11:32 AM
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I was never a fan of the harness bar...
my thought on it was the fact that a harness is suppose to keep you upright, and cheating the system by using a harness bar will in fact keep you seated upright and in doing so in a roll over accident is not good... let alone in a frontal impact such as this...
as for 4-pt harnesses they suck too... unless its a 4-pt Schroth with ASM...
my thought on it was the fact that a harness is suppose to keep you upright, and cheating the system by using a harness bar will in fact keep you seated upright and in doing so in a roll over accident is not good... let alone in a frontal impact such as this...
as for 4-pt harnesses they suck too... unless its a 4-pt Schroth with ASM...
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Mar 16, 2011, 11:46 AM
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I've warned a few different people over the years that have these and none of them ever listen.
Second hand darwinism here. I hope the passenger makes a full recovery.
Second hand darwinism here. I hope the passenger makes a full recovery.
Mar 16, 2011, 11:52 AM
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Im no structural engineer but I never liked those just because those joints look flimsy, imo. I guess I was right. There is no point on the street to upgrade from the oem design. If you want a harness, your gonna need a cage, then your gonna need a helmet. They all work together. Im not a fan of any 4 point belt system, even if the schroth one is proven. I could see the argument if the owner tracks their evo, then the asm unit could be of benefit. but just for the street, just stick with oem. I seen lots of evos with these harness bars and aftermarket harness systems on purely street driven evos. Unfortunately lots of these owners dont understand that alot these harnesses arent safer without the rest of the package. Im not trying to stir up arguments from the harness or schroth asm fans, just my .02.
Mar 16, 2011, 12:01 PM
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Not that it makes a difference but here is the harness bar I have...as you can see no "flimsy" joints...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsu...item19c3c4a7d0
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsu...item19c3c4a7d0
Mar 16, 2011, 12:07 PM
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Not that it makes a difference but here is the harness bar I have...as you can see no "flimsy" joints...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsubishi-Evo-VIII-IX-Harness-Guide-bar-2003-2006-/110658627536?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item19c3c4a7d0
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsubishi-Evo-VIII-IX-Harness-Guide-bar-2003-2006-/110658627536?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item19c3c4a7d0
I never looked into getting one b/c of the price, but for 3/4 less I would!
Mar 16, 2011, 12:16 PM
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Exactly...I saw that one and picked it up right away...I had mine powder coated gloss black...I could definitely tell a difference in the chassis during autox events...I would still suggest not letting someone sit in the back with it installed...
