Gas Prices too high - time for FFV mods?
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Gas Prices too high - time for FFV mods?
Since Vishnu seems to be on the bleeding edge of Evo performance with the SMART feature, I was thinking you guys might be the first to offer a new feature for the XEDE to enable the use of ethanol instead of gasoline. It would be cool to have an XEDE constantly monitoring oxygenate levels in the fuel and adjusting timing and injector pulsewidths accordingly. Then maybe I could just order 102 octane E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gasoline) from the midwest and laugh at the people paying nearly $3.00/gal for 92 octane. Imagine the possibilities! Imagine the power you could get running 102 octane fuel all the time!
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I'd absolutely be interested.
Machron: Remember per the earlier discussion that E85 has a lower energy content than gasoline. You'd have to buy more of it. Mile for mile, I'm not sure it'd actually be cheaper.
EDIT: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&highlight=E85
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Machron: Remember per the earlier discussion that E85 has a lower energy content than gasoline. You'd have to buy more of it. Mile for mile, I'm not sure it'd actually be cheaper.
EDIT: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&highlight=E85
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Originally Posted by donour
I'd absolutely be interested.
Machron: Remember per the earlier discussion that E85 has a lower energy content than gasoline. You'd have to buy more of it. Mile for mile, I'm not sure it'd actually be cheaper.
EDIT: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&highlight=E85
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Machron: Remember per the earlier discussion that E85 has a lower energy content than gasoline. You'd have to buy more of it. Mile for mile, I'm not sure it'd actually be cheaper.
EDIT: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&highlight=E85
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I know methanol can be pretty tough on rubber fuel lines with prolonged continuous use. Does the same apply to ethanol? If so, all the fuel lines would have to be upgraded appropriately.
I ethanol is safe and feasible to run in our cars without any substantial hardware changes (other than perhaps larger injectors), I'm totally game for making a map for it. Might not start up as cleanly as normal pump gas. But it looks like it will make helluva lot more power, have lower emission and add a lot of cool factor I'd be most curious as to what kind of fuel efficiency we would get with the lower energy fuel. Certainly worth experimenting with. Anyone game??
Shiv
I ethanol is safe and feasible to run in our cars without any substantial hardware changes (other than perhaps larger injectors), I'm totally game for making a map for it. Might not start up as cleanly as normal pump gas. But it looks like it will make helluva lot more power, have lower emission and add a lot of cool factor I'd be most curious as to what kind of fuel efficiency we would get with the lower energy fuel. Certainly worth experimenting with. Anyone game??
Shiv
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I'm in the midwest and have that stuff. It's complete ****. You LOOSE power with it, not gain it. May as well pay more money for the real stuff and get the extra power. (went into my daily driver, not the evo btw.)
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Originally Posted by EvoVIII_MR2005
I'm in the midwest and have that stuff. It's complete ****. You LOOSE power with it, not gain it. May as well pay more money for the real stuff and get the extra power. (went into my daily driver, not the evo btw.)
For those of you who are getting overly excited, let me remind you that this stuff is pretty hard to find. How many people would honestly drive 100+ miles just to get gas?
However, in metropolitan areas the stuff can be quite accessable. I remember there was an E85 pump like two miles from my apt in chicago -- but of course, I lived downtown...
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Originally Posted by donour
I'd absolutely be interested.
Machron: Remember per the earlier discussion that E85 has a lower energy content than gasoline. You'd have to buy more of it. Mile for mile, I'm not sure it'd actually be cheaper.
EDIT: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&highlight=E85
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Machron: Remember per the earlier discussion that E85 has a lower energy content than gasoline. You'd have to buy more of it. Mile for mile, I'm not sure it'd actually be cheaper.
EDIT: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&highlight=E85
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I know methanol can be pretty tough on rubber fuel lines with prolonged continuous use. Does the same apply to ethanol? If so, all the fuel lines would have to be upgraded appropriately.
I ethanol is safe and feasible to run in our cars without any substantial hardware changes (other than perhaps larger injectors), I'm totally game for making a map for it. Might not start up as cleanly as normal pump gas. But it looks like it will make helluva lot more power, have lower emission and add a lot of cool factor I'd be most curious as to what kind of fuel efficiency we would get with the lower energy fuel. Certainly worth experimenting with. Anyone game??
Shiv
I ethanol is safe and feasible to run in our cars without any substantial hardware changes (other than perhaps larger injectors), I'm totally game for making a map for it. Might not start up as cleanly as normal pump gas. But it looks like it will make helluva lot more power, have lower emission and add a lot of cool factor I'd be most curious as to what kind of fuel efficiency we would get with the lower energy fuel. Certainly worth experimenting with. Anyone game??
Shiv