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Old Mar 31, 2007, 05:08 AM
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http://www.motorsportsspares.com/home.htm

http://www.worksevo.com/

If anyone in the US will have parts it will be these guys. I'm sure Vishnu has already checked with them though . . .

Anyone consider stepping up to the Flag line rather than waiting for the R+T's?? They're nice!

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Old Mar 31, 2007, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOlutionary
Anyone consider stepping up to the Flag line rather than waiting for the R+T's?? They're nice!
It's not so much the hardware as it is the R&D put into making a perfect all-around combo with proper revalving, spring rates, ride heights, and damping all while remaining affordable. The Flags are even better, but those haven't been tested and configured by Paul.
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Old Mar 31, 2007, 12:35 PM
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+1 on what warrtalon said. I am aware of other vendors carrying the same parts...not to intentionally quote intel...but "it's whats inside"

Stepping up also becomes quite $$$$ when you add custom spring rates and a revalve for said rates, b/c you know damn well anything below 700 (12kg) is not enough for a fast SP/SM car.
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
It's not so much the hardware as it is the R&D put into making a perfect all-around combo with proper revalving, spring rates, ride heights, and damping all while remaining affordable. The Flags are even better, but those haven't been tested and configured by Paul.
I have run the flags (and did post the impressions a while ago). A quick recap: They have a very wimpy compression range that only adjusts in the mid-range (you want low speed adjustability). The low-speed compression ironically is influenced more by the rebound knob...(just like the R&Ts).
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Old Mar 31, 2007, 12:48 PM
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Kekek, what do 700/900s correspond to? 12kg/XXkg?
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Kekek, what do 700/900s correspond to? 12kg/XXkg?
12kg/mm is approx 670 lbs/in
14kg/mm is approx 780 lbs/in
16 kg/mm is approx 890 lbs/in

1kg/mm is roughly 55 lbs/in for quick math
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So, I'm running ~12kg/16kg...yow!
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I take it those spring rates are higher than what normally is spec'd for the vishnu/ohlins?
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700/900 is the highest they offer right now, I think. The normal street/track setup is 450/550, and there's one other combo in between. I got the chance to feel the 700/900 combo the day that I spent at the track with Paul. I rode down from the Springs in the back seat with those springs, then rode on track, and that's what convinced me I could go with the stiffest available. I do daily drive on crappy roads, but any stiffness is welcome in exchange for top performance on track.
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Makes sense. I'm planning on running 275 Kumho 710's (eventually) and I'm trying to figure out what spring rates I'll need to make the best use of them.
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You sure on the 275s? We've had a lot of discussion about that due to the 275/40s being too tall to fit. That's why so many of us use 285/30-18s, because they have a much smaller diameter, which allows them to fit with only fender rolling, and you get a bigger contact patch as well. I'd be using 275s on 17" RPF-1s if they would have fit.
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Sure? Not really. One of the previous autox nat'l champ evo's was running them (Robert Love owns the car now, not sure who the previous owner was), so I was under the impression that it just required coilover and fender rolling. Looks like I might have to go for plan b: 255's.
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Was it on a wide rim in SM/BSP, or was it on a stock rim bulging out over the edge? I know that people have run 275s on the stock rim in A-Stock, and they only fit the wheelwell due to being on such a narrow rim with the tire bulging over the edge.

There's a few people running the 275/40, but I'm not sure how, or they just don't care that it rubs.
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17x9, BSP. It may have rubbed, but I'm not sure. The car these wheels were on is trailered and only driven in anger at the occasional autox. He's now running the same wheel/tire setup as you.
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