Vishnu goes to the drag strip
Dec 28, 2003, 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by ShapeGSX
Yeah, just think of what you could have done if you tuned your car in between passes at the drag strip with a datalogger that logged knock sum?
I forgot that you can't do that, though. 
Yeah, just think of what you could have done if you tuned your car in between passes at the drag strip with a datalogger that logged knock sum?
I forgot that you can't do that, though.
Shiv
Dec 28, 2003, 10:11 AM
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Like I said, you could have gone faster had you datalogged and tuned on the fly.
You made just 2 passes and called it a waste of a day. Do you agree that it would have been less of a waste if you tuned the car on the fly, and made a few more passes? That way you wouldn't have to go back and "waste" another day just to run a better time than Al. Instead I'm sure you will waste a hundred more dyno runs tuning the car before heading back. But we all waste the most time doing what we enjoy most.
I just like making the most of my track time because I only get to go about once a month.
Maybe one of you Evo guys will make enough power to make it worth shifting into 5th. I gotta admit, that gearing sucks for drag racing with a larger turbo. It is perfect for the stock turbo, though.
You made just 2 passes and called it a waste of a day. Do you agree that it would have been less of a waste if you tuned the car on the fly, and made a few more passes? That way you wouldn't have to go back and "waste" another day just to run a better time than Al.
Instead I'm sure you will waste a hundred more dyno runs tuning the car before heading back. But we all waste the most time doing what we enjoy most.I just like making the most of my track time because I only get to go about once a month.
Maybe one of you Evo guys will make enough power to make it worth shifting into 5th.
I gotta admit, that gearing sucks for drag racing with a larger turbo. It is perfect for the stock turbo, though.
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Dec 28, 2003, 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by ShapeGSX
Like I said, you could have gone faster had you datalogged and tuned on the fly.
You made just 2 passes and called it a waste of a day. Do you agree that it would have been less of a waste if you tuned the car on the fly, and made a few more passes? That way you wouldn't have to go back and "waste" another day just to run a better time than Al. Instead I'm sure you will waste a hundred more dyno runs tuning the car before heading back. But we all waste the most time doing what we enjoy most.
Maybe one of you Evo guys will make enough power to make it worth shifting into 5th. I gotta admit, that gearing sucks for drag racing with a larger turbo. It is perfect for the stock turbo, though.
Like I said, you could have gone faster had you datalogged and tuned on the fly.
You made just 2 passes and called it a waste of a day. Do you agree that it would have been less of a waste if you tuned the car on the fly, and made a few more passes? That way you wouldn't have to go back and "waste" another day just to run a better time than Al.
Instead I'm sure you will waste a hundred more dyno runs tuning the car before heading back. But we all waste the most time doing what we enjoy most.Maybe one of you Evo guys will make enough power to make it worth shifting into 5th.
I gotta admit, that gearing sucks for drag racing with a larger turbo. It is perfect for the stock turbo, though.
Just my 2c,
Shiv
Last edited by shiv@vishnu; Dec 28, 2003 at 10:58 AM.
Dec 28, 2003, 11:05 AM
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Who says you can't have knock data, boost datalogs, and a wideband in the car at all times? Lots of DSM owners do. I actually have an in-car wideband setup I've been meaning to put together for a while, but I just never got around to it. But I do have boost and knock datalogs. Very handy.
Hell, a friend of mine datalogs everything whenever he drives anywhere. He datalogs boost at several locations, knock, wideband O2, fuel pressure, and everything else that DSMLink lets you datalog. He has an in-car PC with a 15" screen on his dash.
Hell, a friend of mine datalogs everything whenever he drives anywhere. He datalogs boost at several locations, knock, wideband O2, fuel pressure, and everything else that DSMLink lets you datalog. He has an in-car PC with a 15" screen on his dash.
Dec 28, 2003, 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by ShapeGSX
Who says you can't have knock data, boost datalogs, and a wideband in the car at all times? Lots of DSM owners do. I actually have an in-car wideband setup I've been meaning to put together for a while, but I just never got around to it. But I do have boost and knock datalogs. Very handy.
Hell, a friend of mine datalogs everything whenever he drives anywhere. He datalogs boost at several locations, knock, wideband O2, fuel pressure, and everything else that DSMLink lets you datalog. He has an in-car PC with a 15" screen on his dash.
Who says you can't have knock data, boost datalogs, and a wideband in the car at all times? Lots of DSM owners do. I actually have an in-car wideband setup I've been meaning to put together for a while, but I just never got around to it. But I do have boost and knock datalogs. Very handy.
Hell, a friend of mine datalogs everything whenever he drives anywhere. He datalogs boost at several locations, knock, wideband O2, fuel pressure, and everything else that DSMLink lets you datalog. He has an in-car PC with a 15" screen on his dash.
And if I did my homework right (at my shop, on the dyno, in controlled conditions), I shouldn't have to. Tuning on the strip is great when the driver can provide reasonably consistent performance on which one can base informed decisions upon. And this stage, this does not apply to me.
Shiv
Dec 28, 2003, 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by ShapeGSX
Hell, a friend of mine datalogs everything whenever he drives anywhere. He datalogs boost at several locations, knock, wideband O2, fuel pressure, and everything else that DSMLink lets you datalog. He has an in-car PC with a 15" screen on his dash.
Hell, a friend of mine datalogs everything whenever he drives anywhere. He datalogs boost at several locations, knock, wideband O2, fuel pressure, and everything else that DSMLink lets you datalog. He has an in-car PC with a 15" screen on his dash.
DSM runs stoplight, careens into schoolbus full of nuns
"Officer I was just logging my boost and I saw some knock detected and..............BOOM!"
cmon.... Roads are for driving, Dynos/Tracks are for tuning
Shiv's car is making really good power for stock longblock, just admit it
Dec 28, 2003, 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by shiv@vishnu
Unimpressive given your level of mods. Should be making enough power to trap in the 130s with that built motor. Even without NOS.
Shiv
Unimpressive given your level of mods. Should be making enough power to trap in the 130s with that built motor. Even without NOS.
Shiv
As for who is the fastest right now - i am still the fastest with and without NOS - so do all the talking you want - but your still like 3rd or 4th place
1st place is still 1st place - 11.505 - thats the quickest time - do the math
Ultimate racing went 124 mph and i went 124 so your not the fastest either
Very soon - when and if I need to you all will be seeing the potential of the built motor and why we like to lay a solid foundation when we build a fast car
Dec 28, 2003, 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Alfriedesq
If you think you havce a fast car - why not stop the corruption with your buddies at SCC magazine - - let me into the so called "Evo tuner shootout" and we can go head to head on the same tracks - drag racing - road tuning - etc etc etc and see who the real fastest evo is
As for who is the fastest right now - i am still the fastest with and without NOS - so do all the talking you want - but your still like 3rd or 4th place
1st place is still 1st place - 11.505 - thats the quickest time - do the math
Ultimate racing went 124 mph and i went 124 so your not the fastest either
Very soon - when and if I need to you all will be seeing the potential of the built motor and why we like to lay a solid foundation when we build a fast car
If you think you havce a fast car - why not stop the corruption with your buddies at SCC magazine - - let me into the so called "Evo tuner shootout" and we can go head to head on the same tracks - drag racing - road tuning - etc etc etc and see who the real fastest evo is
As for who is the fastest right now - i am still the fastest with and without NOS - so do all the talking you want - but your still like 3rd or 4th place
1st place is still 1st place - 11.505 - thats the quickest time - do the math
Ultimate racing went 124 mph and i went 124 so your not the fastest either
Very soon - when and if I need to you all will be seeing the potential of the built motor and why we like to lay a solid foundation when we build a fast car
The number to call (Josh J. the feature editor) is in the magazine. I'd love to see you there. And you won't be the only one who is going to have a built motor Cheers,
shiv
"2 bottles of NOS, Built block, Stage 5 heads, years of drag racing experience, loads of smacktalk, pages of technical misinformation, countless lies, and all I have to show for it is this damn T-Shirt"-- You know who
Last edited by shiv@vishnu; Dec 28, 2003 at 01:08 PM.
Dec 28, 2003, 01:40 PM
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That is why it datalogs. No time to look at gauges when you are driving, other than a cursory glance. So the computer records the data for looking at after you are done driving.
I agree, Shiv's car is making good power. It just has more in it.
Shiv, incidentally, I'm surprised you allowed your cat to clog up with lead, you gross polluter, you.
I agree, Shiv's car is making good power. It just has more in it.
Shiv, incidentally, I'm surprised you allowed your cat to clog up with lead, you gross polluter, you.
Dec 28, 2003, 02:10 PM
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Origami posted by Alfriedesq
If you think you havce a fast car - why not stop the corruption with your buddies at SCC magazine - - let me into the so called "Evo tuner shootout" and we can go head to head on the same tracks - drag racing - road tuning - etc etc etc and see who the real fastest evo is
If you think you havce a fast car - why not stop the corruption with your buddies at SCC magazine - - let me into the so called "Evo tuner shootout" and we can go head to head on the same tracks - drag racing - road tuning - etc etc etc and see who the real fastest evo is
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Dec 28, 2003, 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Wingless Wonder
I think a shootout between tuner EVOs would be even more interesting if each tuner were to drive their own car for each venue, be it drags, road course, 700 ft. slalom, and braking.
I think a shootout between tuner EVOs would be even more interesting if each tuner were to drive their own car for each venue, be it drags, road course, 700 ft. slalom, and braking.