methanol mixtures
Jun 20, 2007, 03:12 PM
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Problem is after you reach about 10 gal of meth injection run through the head, all you're left with is a block and pistons, as the IC pipes, intake manifold, head all dissolve and melt like the T1000 Terminator once you reach 10 gallons of use.
Jun 20, 2007, 03:21 PM
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Many times the 50/50 mixture is a safety precaution for meth injection companies as 50/50 mixes are not flammable.
Other times meth injection kit companies want you to run a "thicker" 50/50 mix of water because their fittings, pumps and connectors will leak while using the "thinner" mix of 100% methanol.
I had a client using the snow performance safeinjection system leaking like a sieve. Their recommendation to the client was to use 50/50 to reduce the chance of leaks.
Furthermore most kits are Shurflo based and Shurflo has a warning against using flammable fluid through their pumps. These warning labels are removed by kit manufacturers before they slap on their own labels.
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Jun 20, 2007, 04:07 PM
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Thanks for the info! 
Water also has heat absorbing properties that allow a leaner pumpgas mixture without detonation, adding power and raising the detonation threshold.
Many times the 50/50 mixture is a safety precaution for meth injection companies as 50/50 mixes are not flammable.
Other times meth injection kit companies want you to run a "thicker" 50/50 mix of water because their fittings, pumps and connectors will leak while using the "thinner" mix of 100% methanol.
I had a client using the snow performance safeinjection system leaking like a sieve. Their recommendation to the client was to use 50/50 to reduce the chance of leaks.
Furthermore most kits are Shurflo based and Shurflo has a warning against using flammable fluid through their pumps. These warning labels are removed by kit manufacturers before they slap on their own labels.
Many times the 50/50 mixture is a safety precaution for meth injection companies as 50/50 mixes are not flammable.
Other times meth injection kit companies want you to run a "thicker" 50/50 mix of water because their fittings, pumps and connectors will leak while using the "thinner" mix of 100% methanol.
I had a client using the snow performance safeinjection system leaking like a sieve. Their recommendation to the client was to use 50/50 to reduce the chance of leaks.
Furthermore most kits are Shurflo based and Shurflo has a warning against using flammable fluid through their pumps. These warning labels are removed by kit manufacturers before they slap on their own labels.
Jun 20, 2007, 04:18 PM
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The first post in this thread has some good info that IMO anyone handling methanol should read.
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=359912
http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=359912
Jun 20, 2007, 05:20 PM
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i cant find any methanol around here, but i went to lowes and found denatured alcohol and methyl ethyl ketone.....how good will these perform?
Jun 20, 2007, 05:54 PM
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You can not find the yellow bottles of HEET in an autoparts store or some place like Walmart (probably the cheapest source)? I do not have the info handy with me right now with regards to your denatured alcohol or methyl ethyl ketone question, but I usually point people straight to HEET when asked about methanol since its probably the easiest way to get methanol. Also, find a speed shop thats local to you, usually the speed shops have methanol in 5 gallon containers, if you do not see it ask.
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never put MEK in your WI system, it will destroy all polymers except the resilient few fluoropolymers, ptfe, pfa, fep
denatured alcohol is pretty pricey and it contains denaturing/fouling agents like acetone, MEK, methylene chloride - although in several %, these polar solvents have detrimental effects on polymer pump parts
call around...chemical supply house usually stock tech grade methanol for ~25 to 30 for a 5 gallon drum
denatured alcohol is pretty pricey and it contains denaturing/fouling agents like acetone, MEK, methylene chloride - although in several %, these polar solvents have detrimental effects on polymer pump parts
call around...chemical supply house usually stock tech grade methanol for ~25 to 30 for a 5 gallon drum
Jun 20, 2007, 06:40 PM
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Water also has heat absorbing properties that allow a leaner pumpgas mixture without detonation, adding power and raising the detonation threshold.
Many times the 50/50 mixture is a safety precaution for meth injection companies as 50/50 mixes are not flammable.
Other times meth injection kit companies want you to run a "thicker" 50/50 mix of water because their fittings, pumps and connectors will leak while using the "thinner" mix of 100% methanol.
I had a client using the snow performance safeinjection system leaking like a sieve. Their recommendation to the client was to use 50/50 to reduce the chance of leaks.
Furthermore most kits are Shurflo based and Shurflo has a warning against using flammable fluid through their pumps. These warning labels are removed by kit manufacturers before they slap on their own labels.
Many times the 50/50 mixture is a safety precaution for meth injection companies as 50/50 mixes are not flammable.
Other times meth injection kit companies want you to run a "thicker" 50/50 mix of water because their fittings, pumps and connectors will leak while using the "thinner" mix of 100% methanol.
I had a client using the snow performance safeinjection system leaking like a sieve. Their recommendation to the client was to use 50/50 to reduce the chance of leaks.
Furthermore most kits are Shurflo based and Shurflo has a warning against using flammable fluid through their pumps. These warning labels are removed by kit manufacturers before they slap on their own labels.
Jun 21, 2007, 06:08 AM
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You can not find the yellow bottles of HEET in an autoparts store or some place like Walmart (probably the cheapest source)? I do not have the info handy with me right now with regards to your denatured alcohol or methyl ethyl ketone question, but I usually point people straight to HEET when asked about methanol since its probably the easiest way to get methanol. Also, find a speed shop thats local to you, usually the speed shops have methanol in 5 gallon containers, if you do not see it ask.
Jun 21, 2007, 07:30 AM
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what i wanna do is a 50/50 mix with meth and distilled water, but im not sure if i can find methanol in time for my tune this wknd....could i mix water with heet? or the washer fluid with heet? im just running down to the last minute and need to grab something
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bvdawg - if you are looking to buy in bulk I know a place where you can get 54gallon drums in PA. Unfortunately it is on the other side of the state.
Amazing price too, $180 for a barrel.
PM me if you are interested.
Amazing price too, $180 for a barrel.
PM me if you are interested.
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Jun 21, 2007, 08:44 AM
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You can go to walmart and buy "methanol" any time you want.
It only takes 6-8 bottles to fill up the rear washer tank.
IMO I think the HEET brand has given us better results than VP M1 methanol.