Alky kit w/o solenoid valve...not good!
Dec 31, 2007, 07:12 AM
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Alky kit w/o solenoid valve...not good!
A solenoid valve stops the flow of injectant out of the nozzle when its not needed anymore rather than allowing the excess pressure to continue jetting/dribbling out. Outcome might be costly!
notice the system on the right - continues jetting when injection even is long over
some 1st hand experience of what might happen
If you are shopping for an alky kit, get one with a solenoid valve.
notice the system on the right - continues jetting when injection even is long over
some 1st hand experience of what might happen
Spraying with throttle closed, even with nonflamable water-methanol, is just asking for trouble. The three metal plugs at the bottom of TB, because they're dissimilar metals to TB, will quickly start a corrosion reaction and spread like a staph infection throughout the TB. A bucking DV would just make it worse
Happened to my car once when I hooked the controller up to the EGR vac line (which maintains no vac) and the cotrol started to spray at idle. The car backfired and eventually idled bad, pulled out the stepper motor and it was melted to high heaven. Luckily I was able to find a complete TB/intake mainfold assembly for just $200. Was one hell of a deal being worth about 4X what I paid.
If you spray at idle the methanol fills up at the lowest portion of the TB. Ever noticed the two rectangular holes at the bottom of the TB inlet? A puddle of sprayed methanol while throttle is closed will accumilate and drain from there, fumes in combustion chamber remain and the spark ends up igniting it roasting the stepper. 06 IACS are worst too being made from plastic.
I dont know if the ignition spark or the stepper coils start it, I just know that it happens
Hey, just wanted to let others know if their running striaght methanol and spraying with TB closed.
If you spray at idle the methanol fills up at the lowest portion of the TB. Ever noticed the two rectangular holes at the bottom of the TB inlet? A puddle of sprayed methanol while throttle is closed will accumilate and drain from there, fumes in combustion chamber remain and the spark ends up igniting it roasting the stepper. 06 IACS are worst too being made from plastic.
I dont know if the ignition spark or the stepper coils start it, I just know that it happens
Hey, just wanted to let others know if their running striaght methanol and spraying with TB closed.
Dec 31, 2007, 08:37 AM
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I only asked because no reputable company would sell a kit without a solenoid or checkvalve, so the video does not really apply to most situations.
I will be glad to do such as test when I have a moment.
David
I will be glad to do such as test when I have a moment.
David
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No reputable company will:
- Use the "on-demand" switch on "cyclic" mode.
- Tell their customer to use a bigger nozzle to stop the dribble
- Would piblish a flow chart with the "on-demand" by-passed
- Calling a simple pressure switch as a CND (clogg nozzle detector)
- Adding a motorspeed controller will extend the dynamic flow range of PPS system
- Super this and Super that
- A checkvalve will make little difference to flow
David of coolingmist, you are killing me slowly...
- Use the "on-demand" switch on "cyclic" mode.
- Tell their customer to use a bigger nozzle to stop the dribble
- Would piblish a flow chart with the "on-demand" by-passed
- Calling a simple pressure switch as a CND (clogg nozzle detector)
- Adding a motorspeed controller will extend the dynamic flow range of PPS system
- Super this and Super that
- A checkvalve will make little difference to flow
David of coolingmist, you are killing me slowly...
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Dec 31, 2007, 10:35 AM
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No reputable company will:
- Use the "on-demand" switch on "cyclic" mode.
- Tell their customer to use a bigger nozzle to stop the dribble
- Would piblish a flow chart with the "on-demand" by-passed
- Sell a simple pressure switch a CND (clogg nozzle detector)
- Add a motorspeed controller can extend the dynamic flow range of PPS system
- Super this and Super that.
David of coolingmist, you are killing me slowly...
- Use the "on-demand" switch on "cyclic" mode.
- Tell their customer to use a bigger nozzle to stop the dribble
- Would piblish a flow chart with the "on-demand" by-passed
- Sell a simple pressure switch a CND (clogg nozzle detector)
- Add a motorspeed controller can extend the dynamic flow range of PPS system
- Super this and Super that.
David of coolingmist, you are killing me slowly...
- Use the "on-demand" switch on "cyclic" mode.
All US based companies do this. So you are the only reputable company?
- Tell their customer to use a bigger nozzle to stop the dribble
Show me where I said this. I posted a video to show that a larger nozzle does not dribble. I did not say use a larger nozzle to stop it. If you look at thread I said a larger nozzle would not likely dribble and I clearly said to contact the manufacture of his kit to see what size he should have as M3 was likely too small for his WRX. As I recall I was the only vender that tried to help him. Seems like you read it and did not bother to help.
- Would piblish a flow chart with the "on-demand" by-passed
We were clear it was bypassed and we did that for a reason. We have every right to publish what ever chart we want. You are out of line.
- Sell a simple pressure switch a CND (clogg nozzle detector)
Some Customers who buy our basic kit want the ability to see if the system is WORKING. We call it a status monitor. The concept is simple and sound. Not everyone wants a flow sensor and not everyone wants to put an LED at the pump. This will light up when there is pressure after the solenoid or checkvalve. We are very clear about hat.
Add a motorspeed controller can extend the dynamic flow range of PPS system
we did extend the range, very dramatically I may add. Sorry if you dont like it.
- Super this and Super that.
I dont care if you like how we name our kits.
A checkvalve will make little difference to flow
Wow, you are desperate.
Every single time I post you have to come on and attack me. I dont care what you like or dont like. its not up to you how we sell or our products, what charts we publish or what products we sell or what we name them.
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No reputable company will:
- Use the "on-demand" switch on "cyclic" mode.
- Tell their customer to use a bigger nozzle to stop the dribble
- Would piblish a flow chart with the "on-demand" by-passed
- Calling a simple pressure switch as a CND (clogg nozzle detector)
- Adding a motorspeed controller will extend the dynamic flow range of PPS system
- Super this and Super that
- A checkvalve will make little difference to flow
David of coolingmist, you are killing me slowly...
- Use the "on-demand" switch on "cyclic" mode.
- Tell their customer to use a bigger nozzle to stop the dribble
- Would piblish a flow chart with the "on-demand" by-passed
- Calling a simple pressure switch as a CND (clogg nozzle detector)
- Adding a motorspeed controller will extend the dynamic flow range of PPS system
- Super this and Super that
- A checkvalve will make little difference to flow
David of coolingmist, you are killing me slowly...
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Please let me know if there is a way to speed it up. All you ever do is attack my company.
- Use the "on-demand" switch on "cyclic" mode.
All US based companies do this. So you are the only reputable company?
- Tell their customer to use a bigger nozzle to stop the dribble
Show me where I said this. I posted a video to show that a larger nozzle does not dribble. I did not say use a larger nozzle to stop it. If you look at thread I said a larger nozzle would not likely dribble and I clearly said to contact the manufacture of his kit to see what size he should have as M3 was likely too small for his WRX. As I recall I was the only vender that tried to help him. Seems like you read it and did not bother to help.
- Would piblish a flow chart with the "on-demand" by-passed
We were clear it was bypassed and we did that for a reason. We have every right to publish what ever chart we want. You are out of line.
- Sell a simple pressure switch a CND (clogg nozzle detector)
Some Customers who buy our basic kit want the ability to see if the system is WORKING. We call it a status monitor. The concept is simple and sound. Not everyone wants a flow sensor and not everyone wants to put an LED at the pump. This will light up when there is pressure after the solenoid or checkvalve. We are very clear about hat.
Add a motorspeed controller can extend the dynamic flow range of PPS system
we did extend the range, very dramatically I may add. Sorry if you dont like it.
- Super this and Super that.
I dont care if you like how we name our kits.
Every single time I post you have to come on and attack me. I dont care what you like or dont like. its not up to you how we sell or our products, what charts we publish or what products we sell or what we name them.
- Use the "on-demand" switch on "cyclic" mode.
All US based companies do this. So you are the only reputable company?
- Tell their customer to use a bigger nozzle to stop the dribble
Show me where I said this. I posted a video to show that a larger nozzle does not dribble. I did not say use a larger nozzle to stop it. If you look at thread I said a larger nozzle would not likely dribble and I clearly said to contact the manufacture of his kit to see what size he should have as M3 was likely too small for his WRX. As I recall I was the only vender that tried to help him. Seems like you read it and did not bother to help.
- Would piblish a flow chart with the "on-demand" by-passed
We were clear it was bypassed and we did that for a reason. We have every right to publish what ever chart we want. You are out of line.
- Sell a simple pressure switch a CND (clogg nozzle detector)
Some Customers who buy our basic kit want the ability to see if the system is WORKING. We call it a status monitor. The concept is simple and sound. Not everyone wants a flow sensor and not everyone wants to put an LED at the pump. This will light up when there is pressure after the solenoid or checkvalve. We are very clear about hat.
Add a motorspeed controller can extend the dynamic flow range of PPS system
we did extend the range, very dramatically I may add. Sorry if you dont like it.
- Super this and Super that.
I dont care if you like how we name our kits.
Every single time I post you have to come on and attack me. I dont care what you like or dont like. its not up to you how we sell or our products, what charts we publish or what products we sell or what we name them.
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