no cat in california = punishment?
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Just take cat cover and put over test pipe. My friend did that and if you look under his car you see the mitsustamp on the cover. Cops have looked under and been fooled by this. In cali I think your still gonna get a hassle cause you'll have to go to smog if the cop is a jerk. Glad I don't live in the land of the Smog *****.
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What about high-flow cats? I've not seen a head-to-head dyno on an Evo (even after a short search), but I'd not imagine the difference between a high-flow cat and no cat to be that different.
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As a cop in CA, I can tell you that you run the risk of anything from a warning, to a fix-it ticket, to a vehicle impound. A lot depends on who pulls you over - if it's CHP, expect at least a ticket. If you **** off the cop and they're feeling vindictive, they can take the car off the road and have it towed to the nearest garage.
There's no "federal" violation as CA state law is more restrictive than any federal law regarding emmissions, and so supercedes it. Do we get fooled a lot, and easily? Yeah. Not all of us are car nuts and if it looks like a cat, well, that's good enough for most of us.
Just remember that most "street" cops feel like they have better things to be doing than tagging cars for fix-it violations, and I'd much rather give a warning and spend my time looking for the real bad guys.
Unless you get pulled over by CHP. It's what they do =D
There's no "federal" violation as CA state law is more restrictive than any federal law regarding emmissions, and so supercedes it. Do we get fooled a lot, and easily? Yeah. Not all of us are car nuts and if it looks like a cat, well, that's good enough for most of us.
Just remember that most "street" cops feel like they have better things to be doing than tagging cars for fix-it violations, and I'd much rather give a warning and spend my time looking for the real bad guys.
Unless you get pulled over by CHP. It's what they do =D
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Well isn't california out of line because no state can make laws that are tougher than the federal statutes. I thought a state cannot supercede the federal government. I guess they just get away with it because nobody has the time, money, or ***** to take on the smog *****.
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Originally Posted by LiLaZnKrAcKhEd
Uh..no. Having a car with no cat is breaking Federal Law and is a fine at about $2000.
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You guys in California who think you can break the law and not get caught better think hard about what your doing!
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^lol wtf
thanks u're the best.
will YOU run a HFC or tp or stock cat?
Originally Posted by lancermarin
As a cop in CA, I can tell you that you run the risk of anything from a warning, to a fix-it ticket, to a vehicle impound. A lot depends on who pulls you over - if it's CHP, expect at least a ticket. If you **** off the cop and they're feeling vindictive, they can take the car off the road and have it towed to the nearest garage.
There's no "federal" violation as CA state law is more restrictive than any federal law regarding emmissions, and so supercedes it. Do we get fooled a lot, and easily? Yeah. Not all of us are car nuts and if it looks like a cat, well, that's good enough for most of us.
Just remember that most "street" cops feel like they have better things to be doing than tagging cars for fix-it violations, and I'd much rather give a warning and spend my time looking for the real bad guys.
Unless you get pulled over by CHP. It's what they do =D
There's no "federal" violation as CA state law is more restrictive than any federal law regarding emmissions, and so supercedes it. Do we get fooled a lot, and easily? Yeah. Not all of us are car nuts and if it looks like a cat, well, that's good enough for most of us.
Just remember that most "street" cops feel like they have better things to be doing than tagging cars for fix-it violations, and I'd much rather give a warning and spend my time looking for the real bad guys.
Unless you get pulled over by CHP. It's what they do =D
will YOU run a HFC or tp or stock cat?
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Originally Posted by hk2ronin
Well isn't california out of line because no state can make laws that are tougher than the federal statutes. I thought a state cannot supercede the federal government. I guess they just get away with it because nobody has the time, money, or ***** to take on the smog *****.
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whats people posting an "i think"?
the thread starter asked a qustion which usually means he's not looking into guessing with the "i think"...
the truth:
unless the officer that pulled you over has a sniffer, or is certified to make the call that you dont have cats in your car, he has to refer you to a referee station.
now from there...its obvious that you are not going to go to the referee with no cats... put your stock stuff back on...go to the referee and have them test it, and you have to pay the fix it fee... $10
the referee and very few certified officers are the only one that can make the call to whether or not your car is legal or not...
if your being a dumass and got pulled then you pretty much deserve to get everything coming to you
the thread starter asked a qustion which usually means he's not looking into guessing with the "i think"...
the truth:
unless the officer that pulled you over has a sniffer, or is certified to make the call that you dont have cats in your car, he has to refer you to a referee station.
now from there...its obvious that you are not going to go to the referee with no cats... put your stock stuff back on...go to the referee and have them test it, and you have to pay the fix it fee... $10
the referee and very few certified officers are the only one that can make the call to whether or not your car is legal or not...
if your being a dumass and got pulled then you pretty much deserve to get everything coming to you