So just a little background I have been looking for these HKS relics for years and years. I get an email when any HKS meter is listed on ebay. In over 5 years of looking I had never seen one brand new in box until I purchased the black faced one. Until a month later another one popped up also brand new and never installed since 2001. Pretty crazy, so obviously I had to pick up the white faced one to match my other HKS meters.